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Scenic train trips that you would recommend

  • 23-02-2024 11:28am
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    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,347 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Hey all, I was listening to a sleep story last night about the Orient Express and it got me thinking (yes instead of getting me to sleep). I enjoy travelling by train and would love to do an iconic/scenic train journey in Europe or UK. FYI, I cannot afford the Orient Express 😂

    I know I can google a few lists and will get tons of articles and travel influencers etc. but I'm looking for real world recommendations as well. Have you been on any scenic train trips that you would recommend?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,311 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    There is a TV programme on one of the cable channels called "Great British Railway Journeys", presented by Michael Portillo. If you can find it online or on your TV, there are lots of good episodes and should give you some ideas. Even though its called Great British railway journeys, he goes all over Europe in it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭brownbinman


    I did Zurich to Munich before, was lovely. 4 hours or so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Brian CivilEng


    Oslo to Bergen in Norway has some spectacular scenery. Takes about 7 hours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    The Orient Express is in my bucket list - maybe when I have a lotto win! We've booked the Transalpine in the south Island of New Zealand in April and also the Coastal Pacific in NZ also. I believe they're amazing. Can hardly wait!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    I would definitely recommend the West Highland Railway in Scotland, did it a few years ago in November, weather was dry, clear skies, was fantastic. Went the full way to Mallaig, next time i'll branch off to Oban. A few months ago i did Vienna-Ljubljana-Trieste as recommended here. Stopped for two nights in Ljubljana, lovely small city. https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2023/jan/04/rail-route-of-the-month-alps-to-adriatic-vienna-ljubljana-trieste-austria-italy


    This monthly Guardian feature is brilliant for rail trip ideas.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,591 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    This - we did the trip the other way, on the Flam railway - it's quite a touristy thing, but utterly spectacular (as is Bergen, so if you're there make time to enjoy it as well!)


    Also, we took the train across the Scottish Highlands to get back from Oban to Glasgow or Edinburgh (can't remember now which it was) - it was just the regular Scotrail train, I'm sure there's other lines that are equally fabulous.

    https://www.scotrail.co.uk/inspiration-hub/great-places-to-visit/highlands



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Le Train Jaune, France

    Edinburgh - Inverness - Kyle of Lochlash

    Glasgow - Mallaig

    Zurich to Graz

    Oslo to Stavanger

    Bergen to Oslo

    Tirano - St. Moritz - Zermatt

    Milan - Sicily by sleeper

    Nova Goricia - Jesenice (Slovenia)

    Split - Zagreb

    Ferrol - San Sebastian via the coast on the small gauge train (2 days)

    Budapest - Prague - Berlin

    Bratislava - Kosice

    Sofia - Pleven

    Anywhere in the Carpathians in Romania


    Any of these below in the 'Grand Tour of Switzerland'




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    If you're taking Interrail then it's worth every extra cent to get a 1st Class ticket. Beats the crowds and a much better chance of getting a window seat.

    Use Google Maps 'Terrain' feature to work out in advance which side of the train to sit on. Get a reservation where needed.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,347 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Ooh Norway is on my 'Would love to visit' list so I will have to keep note of this one for sure, thank you



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,347 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    I've been on the Transalpine in NZ from Christchurch, it was absolutely stunning! In fact all of the South Island of NZ is pretty spectacular, I'm jealous 😁



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  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭myfreespirit


    The mountain rack railway to Val de Nuria in Catalonia is pretty spectacular and well worth a visit.

    Also, the narrow gauge SNCF railway in the Chamonix valley, from Saint Gervais-les-Bains to Le Tour and then on into Switzerland is gorgeous.

    If you're in Majorca, the journey from Soller to Palma de Marjorca which runs through the mountainous interior of the island shouldn't be missed.

    Слава Україн– Glóir don Úcráin



  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    I got the train from Interlaken to Jungfraujoch in Switzerland. Beautiful. Trains along the Côte d'Azur in the south of France are lovely too.

    I lived in the Canadian Rockies for a time. The Rocky Mountaineer used to pass through the area. It's quite pricey but the views would be amazing.

    Post edited by Nigel Fairservice on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,398 ✭✭✭✭phog


    One that I'm interested in is the Bernina Express.

    It's a 4-hour journey (140km) between Switzerland & Italy and goes through 55 tunnels and 196 bridges and is a UNESCO World Heritage site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The Trans Canadian was pretty amazing. Took it for 2 days from Vancouver to Winnipeg. Went through the Rockies the first day/night and then through plans that stretched on beyond anything I had ever seen. Got plenty of those nice bubble roof carriages too.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Jaxxon Alive Fog


    Coleraine to Derry would be easily achievable, along the North Coast, described by Palin as “one of the most beautiful rail journeys in the world”, journey lasts an hour.

    Also pretty much anywhere in the Bernese Oberland is spectacular, the trip to the Jungfrau is iconic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,311 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    How did I forget to mention that?!? I've dont that a few times and its gorgeous! (The West Highland Railway)



  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    I did the Jacobite Steam Train from Fort William to Mallaig in Scotland and it was fantastic. It’s also known as the Hogwarts Express because it crossed the Glenfinnan Viaduct that was used in the Harry Potter films. The scenery is absolutely incredible and because it was a steam train and there was a lot of Harry Potter references, my kids had an absolute ball on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    Nice to Rome to Naples.



  • Posts: 0 Kynlee Bald Sinus


    Dublin to Wexford is fabulous, if anyone hasn’t done it. Way under exploited as a tourist revenue source, could run special first class carriage with morning coffee/afternoon tea etc.

    The Cambrian Coast railway in Wales is lovely.

    Many Scottish routes very scenic and interesting. Inverness to Kyle of Lochalsh, West Highland as mentioned a few times above, Edinburgh to Inverness is very pleasant, Inverness to Thurso is a slow train that goes through a wilderness. Any line in Switzerland, Flåm in Norway in my bucket list.

    The Queen of all scenic rail trips is through Western Canada, British Columbia & Alberta. A magnificent area.



  • Posts: 0 Kynlee Bald Sinus


    Some shots from the Wexford train:




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  • Posts: 0 Kynlee Bald Sinus


    Re Western Canada, we are talking about this type of scenery, though I did the trip by road, the train travels through these beautiful mountains.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    I hope to travel from Vienna to Graz to Maribor to Ljubljana to Trieste....stopping in each town for two nights on the way. Just putting the finishing touches to Trieste......did you stay overnight?



  • Posts: 0 Kynlee Bald Sinus


    Norway is FABULOUS. I’ve done the Hurtigruten voyage several times, summer & winter. It used to be an extremely expensive country, but now that Ireland is so costly it’s beginning to look like good value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,882 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I’ve done the Paris —> Nice trip a couple of times. First class too, it’s a recommend way to travel.

    Get an upstairs window seat on one of the TGV Duplex trains…. for the best panoramic views…



  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭SimpleDimple


    Direct flights to Bergen now as well with Widerøe airlines!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,457 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover




  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    I took that flight last year. It was a lovely flight and Widerøe were great.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,199 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    As mentioned above, Wexford to Bray is one of the most beautiful rail journeys in Europe. Sadly a few estates in random places are taking from it over the last few years but it is still highly recommended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    We took The Transalpine in 2005 and as @miamee said it is utterly amazing. And a few years back took The Costal Pacific from Christchurch, then the Interislander and overnighted in Wellington and finally The Northern Explorer to Auckland. The three train journeys are all very different and spectacular in their own way. I still root out the pictures and videos from time to time.

    Take plenty of layers on the trips as you will probably want to spend time in the open sided Observation Cars, especially if you want to take pictures and videos, and you will be quite exposed to the elements; April can be cool and windy. And I'd suggest thinking about bringing your own food as the selection on the trains is limited, expensive and they are prone to running out.

    Hoping to return for the summer and spend Christmas there again, sooner rather than later.

    Enjoy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    Thanks so much for those tips! Very much appreciated. We're doing it slightly differently. Flying to Auckland, a day or so there, flying to Wellington, Interislander to Picton, Coastal Pacific to Christchurch, overnight there and then the Transalpine to Greymouth. Hoping to spend some time touring around by car after that. Our daughter has been living in Wellington for a year and a half. The only thing I'm not mad about is the flight over - we're going to Auckland via San Francisco (other son living there) and it's a 13 hour flight😓



  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭SimpleDimple


    You’ll need to stop off in Amsterdam or Oslo though on your way to Bergen.

    2 hours direct flight rather than 6hr when the stop over is factored in



  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭foxsake


    the green train is a series of old fashioned slow moving routes around sardinia



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2vopFGK33M



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭geecee


    Train from Singapore or Johar Bahru (just north of Singapore in Malaysia) to Bangkok is a nice journey

    Stop at Butterworth for Penang island, take a detour at Phuket in south Thailand or Hua Hin before you get to bkk.

    Not quite the eastern Orient express but similar route!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭Nodster


    Scottish Travel reviewer SteveMarsh on youtube has a couple of interesting train trips around Scotland and Scandinavian mong other European routes - well worth checking out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    I stayed in Ljubljana for two nights, it was lovely, stayed here, would highly recommend, http://www.petkovsek-lj.si/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭VG31


    I've done the Bernina Express and GoldenPass Express in Switzerland and highly recommend them.

    The Bernina Express is a fabulous route to do in both summer and winter. It starts in Chur in Switzerland and finishes in Tirano just across the Italian border. Chur is 1.5 hours by train from Zürich. Tirano is 2.5 hours by train from Milan. I combined the Bernina Express from Chur to Tirano with Lake Como, which is between Tirano and Milan.

    The GoldenPass Express (GPX) goes from Montreux on the east side of Lake Geneva to Interlaken in central Switzerland. It' not quite as beautiful as the Bernina Express but it's still an impressive route. I did Geneva to Zürich in one day with the GPX in 1st class. Despites being a fairly long day it was really enjoyable and relaxing. I took the following trains:

    • Geneva -> Montreux
    • Montreux -> Spiez
    • Spiez -> Bern
    • Bern -> Zürich Airport

    If you're planning a rail journey in Switzerland. I highly recommend a Swiss rail pass. Swiss trains are expensive so passes can save you a lot of money. Some of the passes include:

    • 1 month Half Fare Card for 120 CHF https://www.sbb.ch/en/tickets-offers/tickets/guests-abroad/swiss-halffare-card.html
    • 1 year Half Fare Card for 190 CHF. This is the one I used last year when I travelled to Switzerland multiple times. It paid for itself after one 3 day trip (thanks to the very expensive Jungfrau Railway). Despite conflicting information online, you don't have to be a Swiss resident to purchase one https://www.sbb.ch/en/tickets-offers/travelcards/half-fare-travelcard.html
    • Best for short trips, a Saver Day Pass. This gives you unlimited transport on virtually all public transport in Switzerland for one day. I combined this with my Half Fare Card for the GPX. I managed to travel from Geneva to Zürich in 1st class for only 59 CHF (excluding GPX seat reservations). Prices are generally cheaper the further in advance you book and start from 52 CHF in 2nd class and 88 CHF in 1st class (without a Half Fare Card).

    I'm surprised The Man in Seat 61 hasn't been mentioned yet. It's an excellent resource for train travel https://www.seat61.com/index.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭VG31


    Steve Marsh has a great channel!

    This channel is also very good https://www.youtube.com/@SuperalbsTravels/videos That's where I got inspiration to do the GoldenPass Express. Despite some clickbaity/dramatic thumbnails, his videos are very well done and balanced.

    Jeb Brooks is one of my favourite YouTubers for train and plane trip reports. He has done quite a few long train journeys in the US and Canada https://www.youtube.com/@GreenerGrass/videos



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    Reggio di Calabria to Palermo ! They load the train onto the ferry - quite the experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    This is a great thread, such fantastic ideas!

    thanks for starting it OP



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I was just about to say the same. Lovely thread. Lots of great recommendations.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    Bangkok to the Malaysian Border. I’m not sure the train stops at the border or goes onto KL & Singapore.

    It’s an overnight train ride & we got off at Hat Yai, but a train ride in tropical conditions is something special.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Interrail is also a good option for Switzerland, it depends on the length of stay and how many trips taken.

    Most of the scenic lines have the heavily marketed tourist trains, Bernina, Golden Pass, Glacier Express but they also have regular trains that can be used without any extra fees over normal Swiss fares or rail pass and these are usually far less crowded.

    Jungfraujoch and some of the ski resort rack railways and cable cars are very expensive, Personally I don't think they are good value as there is plenty on the regular routes with stunning scenery but if you want to go I'd suggest not to pre-book, wait until the day and check the weather as you can get days where the mountain peaks are surrounded by thick cloud and there is nothing to be seen at all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    I would be very grateful to hear views on which scenic rail trips might suit someone in an electric wheelchair.

    I'm looking into this or a scenic cruise as a bucket list final big trip sorta thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    Back in the dark ages on my first Interrail trip as a 19yo we stopped for two nights in Interlaken and stayed in a youth hostel full of rich American students. It was boring and devoid of the interaction that makes hosteling so much fun. We bailed the following morning to cut our losses and while waiting for a train out of Interlaken spotted a sign for the train to Jungfrau. Tickets were expensive but we got a 50% discount because we had Interrail tickets. The breathtaking views remain with me decades later. The tickets were good for three days so we hopped off at most of the stops and wandered around the villages. On the way down we stopped in Grindlewald and overnighted in a charming hostel full of interesting people. I won’t recommend it now as so many years have elapsed and it may have changed, but it was a very memorable experience and a “chocolate box” view of the Bernese Oberland and Switzerland. Definitely one for the summer months if you are considering it.

    Perhaps a return visit is called for !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Greg81


    Check out this YouTube Chanel.

    https://www.youtube.com/@Trektrendy


    You will find few ideas there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    I read this book.

    The 50 Greatest Train Journeys of the World; Anthony Lambert – The Secret Bookstore

    Did Frankfurt to Cologne once. It was nice by the Rhine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭xtradel


    For the Bernina express don't forget to use the travel hack on seat61 if travelling from Tirano to Chur where you can do the journey for €29. Done that myself and I'm travelling on it next week where I also booked a first class seat in the panoramic coach for around €34 on the Rhaetian Railway website

    https://tickets.rhb.ch/en/pages/bernina-express



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,347 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee




  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,347 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Thanks for all of the great suggestions here everyone, lots to think about. The only one I had already heard of was the Bernina Express and I was partly inspired to start the thread because of that and also a programme I watched some time ago with Joanna Lumley taking a train across Mongolia, it was stunning. I've still booked nothing but will bookmark these for when I can, a bit under the weather at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Thankfully while the Semmering tunnel will se the express trains diverted there are no plans to close the old line, it will still get regular regional trains.

    Same for the Brenner pass between Innsbruck and Verona, the old line will still be kept for local and some freight while the base tunnel is used for the faster trains.


    It is hard to take a train in that part of the world and not have great scenery, another less mentioned route is the local line that branches off the Brenner at Fortezza to Lienz and Spittal.



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