Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Eighty-five percent of people who applied for international protection at Dublin Airport in 2023 arrived without a correct identity document.

In total, 4,712 people arrived at Dublin Airport and claimed asylum in 2023; 4,007 had either no or false identity documents.

Meanwhile of the 2,591 men who claimed asylum at Dublin Airport last year, almost 87% presented with no or false identity documents.

Independent Clare TD Michael McNamara said it is shocking the law is not being applied. 

“It’s an offence to present at the frontiers of the State without valid identity documents," he said.

"Last year the State didn’t seem to want to prosecute anyone, however in the last few weeks people have been prosecuted”.

Last week a man was jailed for two months as a "deterrent" for breaking immigration laws after turning up at Dublin Airport arrivals without a passport, identification or travel documents.

Wonder if the thought of doing time in jail would put people off destroying their documents?. I suspect more likely they would just accept it as part of the process in getting into the country.

We shouldn't be jailing or processing them at all.

If they arrive having "lost" their documents, or producing obviously false documents then they should be refused admission and escorted to the next flight back to wherever they just came from.

If there's uncertainty as to whether they're legitimate, they should be held in a seperate area (onsite or otherwise) until this can be determined.

It's that simple as well as entirely in our control and our right.

Not automatically, but the links in a lot of cases are undeniable.

Well said.

Ah enough. If you are genuine in your posts then you really need to lay off Twitter or wherever this ridiculous obsession with the "far right" is coming from as I suggested previously - even the general media and politicians have belatedly come to realise that the general public has had enough of the free-for-all and that's why the tone has changed in recent weeks.

All the "far right" is is a means of distraction and deflection that has been played to downplay the increasing levels of concern and frustration that have been expressed by the local population. There IS no real "far right" in Ireland - there is a small group of troublemaking scumbags that will latch on to anything (just as they did with the Dublin protests) to take their opportunity to lash out and cause mayhem. That has nothing to do with politics or ideology and everything to do with a piss-poor Justice system that allows these individuals roam the street with hundreds of convictions.

The only "gulliable" people are those who can't see through this spin and deflection and see the situation for how it actually is - a situation which (as I said) even the politicians have realised has gone too far, not because of the impact on communities, but because of the potential impact on their chances in the upcoming elections.

In short.. stop relying on Twitter for your opinions and start looking around you a bit more.

So you think there's no far right types on boards or this thread?

Unbelievabull!

Vast amounts of public money " thrown away" in the Covid response and unaccounted for?

Go on there now dragging old canards in here never mind its true only in your head!

I am used to the hysteria and hyperbole by some posters like yourself in your defence of this issue and deflection. It's almost like white noise, BUT....

Your last paragraph is a disgrace and a disgusting reach. To suggest that ANYONE is "excited" about the attack (sexually or otherwise) on a small child is frankly beyond the pale.

You should apologise, withdraw it and frankly take a long look at yourself in my opinion.

Actually the balanced debate is on threads like this with posters from presumably all sorts of backgrounds, beliefs and status calling out their concerns and questions - unless you want to suggest that it's all Russian bots and shadowy "far right" figures contributing? I can assure you that I am neither at least!

This is reflected again in the most recent polling.

Maybe the balanced debate you mean is one that just validates and agrees with your own opinion?

Anyone here is free to disagree with my posts. The difference is that I don't resort to throwing my toys out of the pram with posts like your one that I replied to above.

Enjoy your afternoon.

All they want and need is a platform.

Prople who feel disenfranchised, and who most likely are, I agree, listen to them. Maybe not you but people do, like people join in here and thank some pretty awful stuff.

This is how far right gets a foothold and before you know it they are forcing their racist issues in elections.

I and others here are not saying that there aren't problems with the government policies, housing health etc but they are not as desperate as those far right actors would paint them.

Our politicians are all aware that people are not happy with how things are going.

We don't need to burn buildings, employ lynch mobs or leave the EU / Irexit, to sort these issues out.

We are not being overtaken.

We are squeezed because there are wars, Europe and beyond that are squeezing all countries now.

Yes those who are not really in need of refuge should be turned back, deported safe list countries. The problem is not only ours though many countries are having the exact same ptoblems.. How do you stop economic migrants from outside EU, who do you send them back to, where do you send them back to, traffickers, boats, documents disappearing.

None of these are new but they are difficult to deal with.

But thats why we elect people in government.