Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

Harry and his family should be given proper security in the U.K. He is the son of the King. The British press have encouraged and incited violence against Meghan on numerous occasions, one recently as they attempted to distract from what’s happened to Kate.

Shame on any posters on here glowing in this judgement which threatens Harry’s children, his wife and himself. The British Press are a disgrace and some people seem to think they’ve been given licence to hurt and endanger them. The Palace has not once stepped in to stop or pause this disgraceful behaviour from Clarkson, Bower, etc., and seem to be very pally with these reporters. The British Government are shooting themselves in the foot by allowing this farce of a situation and actually encouraging it. If the British Government thinks a modern Royal family popular with the public should be made up of mistress Camilla, Epstein Andrew, William who does no work and acts mentally unstable and a missing Kate, it will just hasten its end.

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Harry and his family have exceptional status at Ravec. Consider how when he hopped on a plane to visit his dad recently at short notice where he got police protection for the duration. Why? Exceptions made for an individual with exceptional status. That was what the Queen wanted for them. She pressed her government to provide effective security for them when they left. The understanding, based on court documents from this case, was that they would initially spend 12 months in Canada with security covered along with security provided whenever they were invited back to the UK. Currently he is afforded full time risk assessments and whenever he or the family returns in any official capacity then they get tax payer funded security.

With ongoing risk assessments then he is given such security if it is deemed necessary (e.g. hopping on a plane during "exceptional" circumstances such as visiting his dad per the above). These assessments result in actions such as right wing racists pod casting and getting arrested and charged. The Ravec/Home Office decision requires 28 days’ notice for any unofficial visits to allow for assessment and (if deemed necessary) scheduling/allocation of officers i.e. if Harry wants to come back to shop in TK Maxx or attend his charity endeavors and based on a risk assessment he requires security then he gets security.

If not then the private security he and other celebrities routinely employ is deemed sufficient. While a Prince of the Realm is "born into the risk" then risk is also applied to those RPOs who provide protection. The Home Office basically feels that unless Harry et al are operating in the public interests (e.g. working royal/attending official events etc) then the risk to officers is acceptable because they are putting themselves at risk in the public’s interest. If he wants to operate privately while in the UK (and with no risk present) then the risk to RPOs is not acceptable and Harry, like the rest of the family do without any compunction to sue the government, live under with no problems. He can afford to pay for private security so in the end given all the parameters described he has effective security.  

He didn’t CHOOSE it, he was driven out by the behaviour of the British press and others which he was stated many many times, why do you choose to ignore that? Do you agree with Clarkson’s article regarding Meghan, that she should be dragged through the streets and abused? Or Tom Bower’s recent assertion calling for their obliteration? The dehumanisation of Meghan and to a lesser extent Harry continues unabated. Do you agree those type of statement raises the threat against him and his family? Are you ok with that? You just seem to like calling him stupid and Meghan the source of all evil on a daily basis.

Except everything I stated was a fact. Do you think what Bower said was ok? Or Clarkson?

Here we go again. If Harry or his family visit the UK, they give 28 days notice and an assessment will be made as to what protection will be provided.

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That is factually incorrect.

I’m not here to defend anyone. I’m here because I object to H&M’s behaviour. They think they’re special and highly entitled to be treated as such. From my point of view, they want all the perks and trappings of Royalty but none of the effort and heavy responsibilities that go with it. Harry quit royal life. Off you go, then, and make your own way in the world.

Talking about entitlement, excerpt from the Judgment

Heaven forbid Harry should be near us ordinary mortals!

Meanwhile, in the real world

The main reason he might need security is because of him publically blabbing about how many Taliban he murdered in Afghanistan. What an idiot.

But have you not realised that, if Harry or his family visit the UK, they give 28 days notice and an assessment will be made as to what protection will be provided. So why the outrage? Read the judgment, it is very thorough and makes the Home Office/RAVEC's approach clear. It is entirely sensible, reasonable and appropriate.

He wanted half in. His security wasn't taken away. He moved into a different security category which is what happens when you've decided to walk away from being a full time senior working member of the Royal family. Actions having consequences. And security was one consequence.

His category automatically changed but given the circumstances involved he was to be provided with effective security in any host country. I would presume he thought his half in/out plans would be acceptable and that he could keep the level of security they had but his family don't decide the security in question here, have no say in determining provision of security. Now he might feel that he is unprotected without 24/7 dedicated security but this hasn't stopped him from freedom flighting to Canada, crossing borders to live privately in California, travelling to Jamaica, Costa Rica for a vacation, back to Canada for multiple trips, Atlanta, New York for Netflix, Dusseldorf for Invictus, Singapore for Polo, Miami, Texas, Tanzania, Namibia, Portugal for holiday, multiple trips, planned and unplanned, back to the UK etc. He can do all of this in the past couple of years without a 24/7 dedicated tax payer funded RPO/team. For someone suggesting he is at risk then this feeling certainly hasn't stopped or inhibited him from living his life which suggests that his security category is adequate and along with private security then he and the family are protected.

He disagreed with the Home Office. He sued. He lost. He appealed their decision. He lost. He wants to appeal again.

What is that definition of insanity again?

No outrage here just pointing out that safety is not a perk its a necessity.

Gives the impression there is likely a socket in the back of the neck labeled 'Daily Mail feed only', and it's got signs of much use.

Well, it is my opinion of the books. They are "trashing the family for money" books (I'm not sure what genre they fit into - fantasy? fairytale? dystopian? parallel world?). I'm not a fan of the genre, anyway.

Probably, from time to time. But the fact remains that his bragging about his Taliban kills - no doubt exaggerated, as we now know was likely done - won't have helped his risk score. His publicising of this was made worse by the casual manner he spoke about those killed - "he said he was neither “satisfied” or “embarrassed” by the fact. “In truth, you can’t hurt people if you see them as people,” Harry said. “They were chess pieces taken off the board, bad guys eliminated before they kill good guys. They trained me to ‘other’ them and they trained me well.” (from an article in Time at the time of publication)

Harry had already caused controversy during a 2013 interview with the Guardian where he compared his control of the weapons system as a “joy,” likening it to “playing PlayStation and Xbox” 

Given that Spare was written in 2022, and he obviously hadn't learned from his PlayStation/Xbox comments, there is something worryingly puerile about a man in his late 30s nonchalantly dehumanising people.

Right so he still needed security way before anything he said about his time in the army.