Israel-Gaza: 'We are at war', says Benjamin Netanyahu

I totally agree with your statements, if hamas had just targeted soldiers and military bases that day, as a revenge attack, they would of had some hope of taking the moral higher ground, and isreal wouldn't of been able to go on their bombing campaign so indiscriminately, but they went into Islamic jihaid mode, and isreal have their American version of 9/11 to level the place and depopulate it.....

It's a dangerous game their playing though long-term with the state American politics is in and if Trump gets back in, he could on a whim slash military support and given the state of isreals own economy they would be in bother within a couple of months to finance their operations

So how do you think the Palestinians should have behaved towards Israel when they are having their lands stolen right, left and centre in the West Bank and are being treated so badly by the IDF in both the WB and Gaza, the worlds largest prison? Should they just sit down and take it as they have done for years while Israel continually breaks UN sanctions and treats them like dirt?

It escalated on Oct 7th but has been going on in one form or another since 1948. Netanyahu never wanted a 2 state solution. Again what should the Palestinians have done all along to get fair play?

Palestine was fine with the 1967 borders.

Israel also behaved quite nefariously when various peace talks and two state solutions were tabled e.g. 2002 / 2007 / 2013& 2014.

The "this war started on 7th October" statements are beyond ridiculous given the dearth of historical documentary evidence readily available should you wish to embrace reality.

This really doesn't support any argument you are making. The Middle East is a big place; for clarity, we are discussing the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

Well you can't just compare numbers like that. While the number of civilian dead in Iraq since the US led invasion is given around 200k (some estimates put it in a range up to 300k), the population of Iraq is 40m i.e. 20X the population of Gaza (It was 25m at the start of the war). And those are cumulative casualties over more than 20 years..........according to military logs leaked to Wikileaks back in the day, there were about 66k civilian deaths in the first 6 years of the war. The IDF are on course to exceed that number in well under a year against a population less than one-tenth.

And in a scenario where the US was (at least initially) fighting against an actual army with access to heavy weaponry (even if they buried their jet fighters rather than use them so that the US could not destroy them!). Later on fighting insurgents and various organised groups. And there would have been many civilian casualties from fighting between those groups and the Iraqi government which was established. So you effectively have a civil war component there too.

What's happening in Gaza is not a war - it is target practice for the IDF.

CHILD DEATHS IN WARS =

Ukraine -- 520 in 2 years.

Iraq -- 3,100 in 14 years.

Yemen -- 3,700 in 7 years

Stria -- 12,000 in 11 years

Palestine -- 12,000 in 3 MONTHS

They're still murdering women and children mainly. They reckon they have killed 9K Hamas operatives but this is obviously a stretch and an attempt to downplay the numbers of innocents. They reckoned that Hamas had 40K operatives so there are still over 30K alive and fighting. Hamas are no mugs either as they deploy hit and run tactics and a ground war in the cities suits them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fGctswAWWc

Israel is tearing itself apart.

https://twitter.com/EladNehorai/status/1761824601158648075?s=20

On a slightly lighter note, a demonstration of the Ashkenazi debating style:

Darker really, although the first time I read it I did laugh a little - but this style will be familiar to anyone who has questioned any of Israel's actions on an internet forum.

Their probably on the ladder of genocidal psychotic b***ts passing out Russias actions in Ukraine at this stage, its interesting though their economy is tanking and apparently record levels of isrealis are getting out of the country and emigrating, in years/decades down the line when the wheel eventually turns and isreal finds itself on the receiving end they'll find it difficult to have a pity party for themselves after this on the world stage

If Biden wins the election they will. He doesn't like what the Israelis are doing and was even heard saying what he thought of Netanyahu and the Israeli actions. There is even talk that the Yanks are cosying up to the Iranians. I hope that's true because that will make the Israelis squirm.