Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

There is a whole thread about it....you will find what you are looking for there.

The eu would write us a strongly worded letter 😀

It's unfortunate that genuine refugees fleeing war probably might not have a passport

Rte news running with the main headline about the hardships of immigrants in tents in the snow..........is this the first time the headline news ran a story about the homeless in tents in winter, given we've always had those of our own I don't remember it

Just argue that we shouldn't take them at all.

Hopefully the message goes out that if you come to Ireland as a single man seeking asylum, you get a tent and 40 quid a week. I'm guessing the government do too and might not be surprising if some of the opposition might lower the volume on the issue as well.

Over 13.000 international protection applicants last year, at least 70% were undocumented.

Where is your link on that ?

You've said a figure in three different posts now with nothing to back it up .

Admonishment as Ash J said and also monetary fines unless Ireland agrees to take an allocated amount .

I am sure the poster has posted on this before here .

Read the thread. I answer the exact same question a post above. I don't want to spend my time repeating myself when I don't need to.

You must be on the wind up if you think Ireland being first the first ever Western country to refuse to take any asylum seekers would have zero negative implications tbh.

I think the increasing concern over the numbers that have arrived from Ukraine, the benefits and exemptions granted them, the resources diverted to housing them, the recent story of the massive amount of money spent on rescuing their PETS as well, and the changes now to several of these points by Government in response to said concern shows that in fact the majority of the population HAVE had enough and want to see limits/controls put in place.

As I've said many times before, I have complete sympathy with their plight and condemn the actions of Russia, BUT I feel no responsibility for it or for resolving it (that latter part lies with their leaders and whatever settlement is ultimately arrived at) and I question the motives of anyone who travels from one end of Europe to the other (skipping through all the countries in between) to land on a small island - especially when there are (as shown on that BBC graphic I posted a few days back) huge areas of their own vast country not involved in the conflict zone, and when the Ukrainian foreign minister has called on them to return.

It's not our fight, Russia certainly doesn't care about our opinion (and if anything likely welcomes the destabilising effect that their actions have had in Europe), and we will have no influence on whatever the resolution is.

You talk about Ireland’s response to the refugee situation of WW2, 80 years ago!! I dare say that very few if any of us posting here were around back then and it's easy to look back now and condemn and - I'll grant you - probably rightly so, but as I said, the mistakes of the past shouldn't shackle us in how we address the problems we face today.

You are dismissing the hundreds of millions (up to 2 billion this year) that is spent on foreign aid but all of this comes out of the same finite pot, and as we've seen, giving to one means taking from someone else.

You talk about our moral duty here but what about our moral, constitutional, legal and political obligations to the Irish state and her people? We don't elect politicians to put the needs and interests of randomers ahead of our own. We expect them to work towards fixing the issues we have, and improve things for the future - not make everything exponentially worse in an ill-judged crusade to show the rest of Europe how charitable we are!

What benefit is it to anyone to see communities stretched to breaking point? Who benefits from putting people in fields? Where's the advantage of putting an already broken healthcare system under even more pressure? How do tourist communities benefit from having their hotels and other buildings repurposed to holding dislocated frustrated people with nothing to do?

As I've also said many times, charity begins at home and that's where our efforts need to be to address the long standing fundamental issues in core services and infrastructure that everyone is negatively affected by. Once we have a handle on that, THEN we can think about the needs of others (which doesn't necessarily mean bringing them and their problems home) - but again, let's not forget that we are ALREADY giving 2 BILLION euro to the needy of the world.

Your position is undoubtedly from a sense of charity and empathy and that's commendable for sure, but all such things still have to make sense in the real world of economics, politics and social support and THAT is where the whole house of cards falls apart I'm afraid.

That's why the polls are showing that people have had enough, why protests and unfortunately more extreme forms of resistance have increased, and why the Government has belatedly started to take note and actions (albeit from a sense of self preservation in upcoming elections).

There's only so much we can do given our own needs, problems, and resources. That's not inhumane. That is life!