Tusla

actually they dont as much as you would think.

there are massive problems with not being able to take leave in AGS and national ambulance service and fire service or any other emergency service including nursing

it is likely that the magic overtime wont be taken up as its the same few who are working the over time and they are already over worked, exhausted and too thinly spread.

so no all public servants don't take leave like tusla staff

Very good points. In the old days, a clip round the ear got the point home. Now that generates a children first concern. You cannot say boo to the little feckers now and we are reaping what we sow. The days of the gardai wading in and giving someone a slap to make them behave are gone. Now the ombudsman is tieing their hands. A prolific gang of robbers, driving the wrong way down the N7 crashed and were killed, but one of the gardai appeared in court last week. I see in the news yesterday, that little fecker that stabbed the poor girl on the bridge in the centre of Dublin is now appealing. WTF?

We have turned into a bunch of nambypambies, and I do not think there is any way back. Our youth are fecked.

One of the big problems with TUSLA is its history. Originally their services were delivered by the old health boards. The health sector in Ireland is the weakest part of the public service in terms of basic admin structures.

When TUSLA became a thing in its own right, it degraded even further as it continued to operate this way, but without the wider support of the health boards admin structures. - even weak admin structures are better than none.

Are you saying that the place you work makes it difficult for employees to take their legally entitled annual leave? Very interesting.

Hard to view it any other way when you wrote what you did. How are holidays rather difficult to get unless it is the employer making it difficult to take them?

They have the same holiday entitlement as other public sector staff. Dunno what you mean by “on a regular basis”.

As they are entitled to do. I don't know what point you are trying to make?

This is true, but I suspect from my own limited experience (not specifically Tusla, this was in the UK) that there may be a tendency to investigate the "easy" cases so as to have results, while the difficult cases may be pushed to one side because they demand more work and whose outcome may be hard to predict.

This is mainly from a family I used to know where the husband was violent - they were on a register with SWs assigned to follow their case. But here's the thing: the SWs were so afraid of him that they only visited accompanied by the police - and yet there was apparently no question of the children being removed, even though at least one of them had behavioural issues at school. And here's the kicker: the teachers couldn't tell the father about the son's behaviour because the father would beat him to within an inch of his life. So they tried to deal with his behaviour in class without contacting the parents (the mother, of course, could do nothing so there was no point in telling her yet again about his problems).

Everyone knew this, and yet it went on. The only explanation I can find is that there was no neglect, and while the violence was "contained", ie invisible to the outside world, it was deemed easier to "manage" the situation mainly by not annoying the father.

(He wasn't a mafia guy or anything like that, at least not as far as I know. Just a violent man that nobody really wanted to get involved with.)

I don't think those SWs were doing nothing, so I presume they removed the easy cases - mainly single mothers who were overwhelmed and therefore neglecting their kids, and of course who wouldn't/couldn't fight back - and also investigated the hell out of any middle class families who came to their attention to prove how inclusive and egalitarian they were. And also because they weren't afraid of them.

As I say, this wasn't even TUSLA, just a phenomenon that I expect happens with them too.

I did. File was sent to DPP. Staff member then played the mental health card to avoid prosecution. Took a 'career break', but after everything died down, they had a miracle recovery and returned to work.

School management were worse than Tusla. Didnt even suspend the staff member even after Gardai advised them that they should while the investigation was ongoing.