Cold Case Review of Sophie Tuscan du Plantier murder to proceed. **Threadbans in OP**

I've come home drunk many a nights but always go around switching off lights and tv's etc, just cause you're drunk doesn't mean you've lost your train of thought.

Any guesses as to when the final file will be submitted to the DPP? Would it be 2024 I wonder?

Given the guards alleged prime suspect has now deceased, there’s not a huge amount more they can do- unless their focus has shifted to another party or parties known or unknown.

As divisive as this thread can be (thanks for the mod intervention @[Deleted User] ) it’s clear that there are many other possibilities and indeed in some instances, probabilities, than just Bailey.

While we don’t have access to the current evidence, we have clearly seen from the DPP report, that the evidence previously submitted, was a reflection of a highly disorganised investigation riddled with extremely questionable police practices and very flimsy evidence.

Im expecting this time, a balanced approach- a file that won’t necessarily pin point any one individual- that’s my prediction -

while it may outline what “evidence” there is towards Bailey, it will likely also allude to other potential suspects, known or unknown, alive or dead, but whom the Gardai cannot, for whatever reason, progress an investigation any further.

The case will remain “open” but likely will never again be reviewed to the degree it has been on this occasion.

Anyone else think similar around the DPP file or indeed the opposite?

Given the previous criticism the DPP provided of the files submitted, it’s very hard for me to foresee a similar file being submitted again - what has changed in terms of evidence? What new evidence or testimony is there?

The Gardai of 2024 are no fools- but I don’t see how they could submit a file yet again that only focuses on Bailey - it just doesn’t make any sense to me.

do they want ridicule for a 3rd time? I know those investigating now weren’t part of the original investigation but surely they can see that there are at least unanswered questions around certain individuals that could have moved the investigation in a different direction had they access to such people .

The avenues that were not fully or even partially explored at the time that unfortunately have now closed, mainly due to the death of those people, are as suspect as Bailey is- yes Bailey has evidence against him because Gardai pursued him, and gathered such evidence via statements from people- but what’s to say they couldn’t have also achieved similar had they pursued a number of other people?

A bonfire, a few sarcastic comments, dubious “eyewitness” statements that changed to fit a narrative, scratches that were never properly forensically examined- if they’re submitting all of that again, then sorry, as a tax payer I want a refund please.

It's just like all situations in criminal cases, they always try to figure out the demeanour, mental status etc etc of a person, it's all about building a file and a profile for the suspect.

Being legally drunk in Ireland is typically around 4 or 5 pints for a man and 3 or 4 pints for a woman, don't know about others but after 5 pints i'm still aware of my surroundings and dangers etc etc.

You can only legally be deemed drunk in Ireland by a doctor, a Garda can arrest you or fine you on 'suspicion of being drunk' but legally they can't accuse you of being drunk without a doctor confirming that you are actually drunk. Generally it averages between the numbers I gave above for both male/female.

Everyone has different tolerances but they need a cut off point for you to be legally accused of something, same with drink driving, I could hop in my car after 5 pints and be all over the road but you could jump in and be perfectly capable of driving, thats why there are limits.

I've read some nonsense on this thread but it's being taken to new limits now

A public place and there's more to it than than simply being drunk

A file would normally only be submitted to the DPP for a charging decision. This is/was the case with Bailey and the DPP twice refused to authorise a charge on the grounds of insufficient evidence. With Bailey dead there would be no requirement to submit the file if the current enquiry determines that he is still the only suspect. Only if there is evidence to indicate other, viable, suspects would AGS be required to submit the file for a charging decision.

I could be wrong but I thought the general consensus (mainstream media mostly) is that a file will be submitted, even though Bailey is now deceased -I stand corrected but I thought quite possibly even the Gardai have stated they’ll be submitting a file ? How else can they justify or bring to any sort of conclusion the massive effort they’ve given this case over the last couple of years? It can’t just end here and Peter out?

Now you’re assuming I’m basing my information and opinion on what I read here - the second time you’ve misinterpreted my post and why I’m completely bored stiff with such nonsense posts as this - have a different opinion to me fine, but don’t put words in my mouth thanks .

It may well be different in this case given the amount of public interest. However normally a file is only submitted to the DPP when a charging decision is required. In a case of this magnitude the charging decision is taken out of the hands of the police.

I just remember (don’t have a reference to hand) that a file will be submitted - that’s what I have in my head - I appreciate the normal circumstances of a DPP submission file but I believe ultimately a file will still be submitted - but happy to be proved wrong if there’s a statement from the Gardai to the contrary

Just found this which is a bit ambiguous as it suggests they will only submit a file in relation to Ian Bailey.

The scenario for the main suspect is unlikely too, as has been established multiple times on thread.

Unlikely also when two DPPs have rejected the Garda evidence that tidying it up and resubmitting it without any solid positive proof would pass muster.