Deposit return scheme (recycling)

5th time using the machine today, good size bag of bottles and cans, logos and no logos and still no problems. Inconvenient but working well

That's a fair leap of a conclusion you've made from my comment. I didn't say that was the case at all.

the sale price of it before the logo bottles came out on the shelf was 30cent. but they've often been relatively low for the past couple of years, usually between 29c-50. january it was 65cent. some of the other flavors have gone up since then to 69c i've seen. But to see something go from 30cent to 65c is quite the massive leap in price.

edit: thats excluding the deposit, including the steep deposit, its 90c. making it even more of a massive leap. even if it were from 65c its still a leap. the deposit is like almost half of the price of the product itself. this is insane.

But you said you made money from collecting bottles/cans that you found while picking up litter? The conclusion I've drawn from this is that these bottles/cans have only been disposed of over the last while due to you being able to get deposits from them. So people aren't bothering to return said bottles/cans for deposits. It's a poor start for deposits at this early stage.

This situation reminds of the early days of enforced checkpoints for drinking and driving. Big blitz, many are caught and the Gardai clap themselves on the back, see what a great job we are doing. Few months later when the amount of checkpoints decrease by half or more, less people are caught, THE message is working see,but but, people being caught are way down-just maybe because less people being tested?

WIN WIN for masters of spin. Reports of people collecting littered items-system working as devised. Reports of little or no bottles being collected-see our system is working, less litter.

I don't drink that stuff to be honest but doubling of the price is pretty bad alright

You can get the 25c back so it's in fact only 65c

Probably worth a try.

This also happened me at weekend. Initially rejected. Tried it again straight away and worked.

Awsome.

You could have just put the bottle in the recycling bin and forgone the deposit, im beginning to feel thats what they want us plebs to do.

When you actually sit down and think about this new system its all just a bit mental. Who actually asked for this new system?

The two retailers were quite restrained you felt in terms of their criticism. Privately they'd likely tell Minister Smyth & Mr.Foley to take their scheme and shove it up where the sun don't shine.

Foley then comes on afterwards, was he asked to debate with them live on air and declined? Anyway, all sweetness and light according to CEO Foley. A few little teething problems but he has 2 million containers collected in first month. Claire gave him an easy ride and barely raised a few of what was most likely an avalanche of complaints from the public.

One chap wanted a machine installed at sports club for young people. Mr.Foley purred and agreed and then a minute later poured cold water on it and advised them to get a bin, then queue up at some existing machine.

If there was a way to bring back the public stocks, he'd be prime citizen for same and let the public let him know what they really think.

My experience is from doing litter picking and clean ups.

Just top of the head because I never actually compiled figures I reckon about 50/50 cans and plastic on the soft drinks.

Beer cans mostly turn up in places where people congregate to drink rather than one offs.

Sometimes you'd come across a beer can on the side of the road and kind of hope it was a passenger rather than a driver 🙂

just came back after being out today, one thing i've noticed is that not all machines accept the same bottles. For example the one your mentioning, and also tesco's orange water don't seem to be accept by other machines (maybe they need updating? idk) and the biggest problematic bottles for me for the most part seems to be the small tropicanna bottles and the small fruit shoots bottles (both containing the logo and undamaged) never seem to be readable by most machines. Tropicanna worked in tesco today. i'm gonna have to dig through my pile of receipts to look for the fruit shoots deposit and follow it up, as machines don't seem to be taking them.

as for the bottles you're talking about, 65 cent would be okay if any machine accepted them, and not just the tesco machines. i've tried aldi and centre and dealz and dunnes, no luck. i have yet to try the tesco apple elderflower and the other orange bottle in a Lidl's machine. in a weird kind of way it feels like some sort of scavenger hunt to find which machine will accept a tesco return bottle (which should be accepted everywhere) other than tesco, seems like a case of "return to sender/bring it back where you bought it" kind of deal.

i wonder who has access to updating the machines, can re-turn do it at the touch of some buttons? or must they come out and install some sort of update manually onto the thing?