25% of Children starting school in the UK not toilet trained

Cut social workers, universal credit and any kind of social supports to the bone and leave people adrift, this is what you’ll get.

Effers will probably be voted in again because ‘oh, that Keir said something…’ or some other nonsense.

The UK is going down the toilet.

Hang on, the way they present the results is really weird. Read the legend carefully:

So the dark bar is saying that teachers report that 24% of the kids aren't toilet trained.

Bu the light bar is saying that only 21% of parents think that their kids should be able able to use the toilet. Which would mean that a whopping 79% of them think their kids should not be toilet trained when they start.

So the two bars are measuring opposite things. And the results don't corollate at all. As the data is presented here, parents are actually massively underestimating their children's toilet abilities.

I'm not sure this survey can be trusted.

But why are some children not fat then?

Some households are buying 4 or 5 take aways a week now. And snacks are chocolate and sweets.

Oh I agree entirely .

I was just saying we were generally younger starting so hence the' odd accident'.

Some of the parents who allow this to continue with children rising or already 5 would not care if their kids went to school or not .That's the problem .

Others need education and support and the thought that their children will not be either in school or creche if they don't get a grip .

No teacher should have to cope with 30+ kids and some in nappies/ training pants at 4 year seven except those with Specual Needs . And that's why they have SNAs .

Does it really happen in Ireland much now though ?

The study is UK based .

Irish children are older by 6 months at least and as yousay correctly are not accepted in the big room in creches or preschools if not trained for the most part .

If you title it 75 percent starting schoolchildren toilet-trained, it doesn’t read so bad!!!!

I dont know how often it happens in Ireland. I suspect its not as prevalent as the UK survey indicates it might be over there.

I know of one incident locally (rural area) where a parent tried to pretend a three year old was old enough to start national school and tried to drop them off....somewhat related as the kid wasnt properly toilet trained....

I was surprised as youd want to be desperate or stupid or some mixture of both to try that as you surely need to provide accurate ID for the kid etc to the national school etc

I dont know the ins and outs tbh, I suspect not in this case as it was mentioned to me in a...thats the kind of stuff we have to deal with way by principal🫣

I think you are assuming that the people that are answering both questions are the same and are parents of kids who are at the school of the teachers who answered the questions.

There isn't necessarily any correlation between any of the questions, unless every teacher and every parent in the UK was polled.