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TB testing

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    the department's latest scapegoat is they're blaming zero grazers, badger poo and urine mixed in the forage, had a dept guy in the yard a couple of weeks ago and he started this sh1te,

    told him i have dealing with tb since the 1960s and if the dept had been efficient in their work tb would have been eradicated long before zero grazers were invented. conversation took a quick turn.

    deer and badgers certainly responsible in cases and many believe the skin test is not totally accurate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭morphy87


    I was going to make the point about the zero grazer but this problem is around long before them, but a neighbour of mine went down during the spring, his cows were clear in the autumn but he was zero grazing an outside block and he is blaming it on the zero grazer as there is a lot of deers where he was zero grazing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    If the farmer didn’t use the zero grazer and made bales instead would it reduce the risk?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭morphy87


    I really don’t know but my friend was doing a lot of zero grazing and he had a lot of abortions so eventually after a long time it was discovered that the cows were aborting from **** in the grass that was coming in the zero grazer so that had to stop zero grazing that area



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Would you buy bales off a farmer whos herd were wiped out with TB shortly after the bales were made?



  • Registered Users Posts: 970 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    Have a single bull weanling to sell is it tested within a year or last 6 months ? I know cows are different



  • Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭grass10




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    Passed a dead badger on the side of the road about a mile away last week. Passed another one dead today. I don’t know if there been shot or hit by cars. Often heard that they are sick and get hit by cars. I’ve to test again at the end of the month cause lots around me are down. Every 4 months until the department say otherwise. We could get a Covid vaccine in couple of years. And there is a tb vaccine. But no desire to use it.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I sent animals to factory. One of them came back with a suspected tb lesion. Today they confirmed it was TB. All my last herd of cattle are gone and slaughtered. I have new ones in from another owner after all the previous animals were slaughtered. Now I have to do two TB consecutive tests on these new animals and the first can't be done until 60 days after the suspected animal was detected. Did a TB test in December due to a neighbour going down and no findings all clear. Now I have to do two consecutive TB tests on a completely different herd of animals which makes no bloody sense at all. The new animals came in a day after the last animal was slaughtered. Jobs for the boys it seems. It be different if I had cattle from the previous year still with me or I had stores but I had nothing. Makes my blood boil.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Got locked up last October. Clear tests in December and February Both of which I have to pay for.

    Have very heavy cull cows and a couple of bullocks ready for factory but afraid to sell in case of any showing leasions. Have yearlings to sell usually a couple of repeat customers buy mid March and I don't want to lose these men otherwise I would have took them to the mart.

    Need replacement dairy stock but most offered for sale are more than 6 months tested, more hassle and risk if I buy them.

    Some f##k up of a system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭MfMan



    Why did you have to pay for both tests? You're going to have to sell sometime, but most predictions say that beef should rise again within a few weeks if you want to hold on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭grass10


    There is no point worrying about animals that may show up with tb you just have to keep operating away as its just unnecessary stress worrying about it. Buying in cows over 6 month out of test will have to be retested by you that's the rules and don't bother with cows if you don't want to comply we all know its a stupid rule but it's their as a concession to the dairy farmers allowing them to sell cows out of test over 6 months but making the buyer test them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    I thought you only ever have to pay for 1 herd test a year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,149 ✭✭✭amacca




  • Registered Users Posts: 597 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    Does anyone know why you have to do two tests . Surely in any environment one test is enough ?

    I can see why people are leaving the land !!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    1 test was Dec 2023 next was Feb 2024



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Seadin


    It doesn't make sense in some cases to be fair.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    I was told by the department a few years ago that you only have to pay for 1 test in any 10 month period. If I to have a test in the morning then I would have to pay for 1 if I paid for a test anytime after the 6th May 2023



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭MfMan


    If you have a recent, previous history of TB (even though clear now) and neighbouring, adjacent farms go down also, they'll probably make you test again within 6 months of previous test.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,937 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    We read our tb test this morning. An Australian vet. New enough in the practice. Every animal went through the crush number taken and neck felt or measured for reading. The way it should be. I know we all want a clear test, but we're paying for them to be tested and read properly so it should be done right . Took 3.5 hours to read them. No tb in Australia. We'll never get rid of it here the way some vets test. We are clear



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  • Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭grass10


    Fully agree, my vet always tests by the book and at reading every tag is read by the vet even though I'll tell him the tag numbers as he checks the skin he will still read the tags himself. We didn't have tb with 40 years yet all the neighbours are showing up on a regular basis with tb and they seem to get miraculously clear when they want to sell cattle in the mart it looks to me that vets are being put under pressure to give a clear test so that animals can be sold in the mart, I have a lot of pity for vets that we in such a vulnerable position



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