Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Kilkenny GAA Thread

Options
1330331333335336411

Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,868 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Checked out the app there, is a bit of a work in progress. The main page is a news feed about kk gaa which is grand but then there's a "skills" tab that's about getting job training or something. And the email when I registered says "Welcome to the Kilkenny Cats Platform!

    We are delighted to have you on board! This is an innovative platform with an array of features - from specialised communication tools to real-time updates, job listings, and matching opportunities, alongside free education options and much more that you can access as a Kilkenny Cats member!"

    I mean...it's not that big a deal but I'm not signing up for a job listings and training app so it seems a bit ill fitted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Village87


    I agree completely, Kilkenny clubs and county badly need a facility that you have mentioned. A location around Kell's or Stoneyford would be a suitable location. Club matches can be played there when the weather is not suitable and the county teams have a base. At the moment it is impossible to maximise county training with changes in location, pitches unplayable and trying to cater for more or less 3 professional set ups(senior, u20 and minor) must be a logistical nightmare



  • Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭usualstripes


    I would have no fears of Mikey. As far as i am concerned the full back line of Mikey, Huw and Tommy is as good as we have. On Darragh Corcoran i think his best position is full back but he wont displace Huw there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭usualstripes


    On the facilities we have in Kilkenny I would go as far as saying we are about the worst in the country. Our facilities are way off most counties.

    In the whole of Kilkenny we dont have what is called a "centre of excellence".

    We have Dunmore and if anyone comes along saying it is a top class facility then they need their head examined. We have nothing.

    How many clubs even have floodlights that can host a hurling match? Mooncoin, Muckalee, Piltowns back pitch, Dicksboro and a couple more but its pathetic. We are Kilkenny ffs.

    We have lost out in the fact that we dont have a University campus in Kilkenny. SETU Waterford and Carlow have excellent facilities but we need to look further. Our nearest neighbours Wexford, Carlow, Waterford and Laois all have facilities that their inter county teams use that puts us back in the dark ages when comparing facilities. Good facilities wont guarantee all ireland winners but they would certainly help with player wefare/support etc.

    At some stage we need to have a focal point and again dont anyone bring up Dunmore into this conversation as its a farce for a facility. Get a group of investors on board and state grant aid (every other county is at it) and develop something that will be the focal point for the next 30 years and something we would be proud of.

    1) 1 full size grass pitch under lights with a stand capable of seating 3000-5000.

    2) 1 full size 4G (astro pitch) under lights

    3) 2 full size pitches adjacent to the above for training etc

    4) Dressing/meeting rooms that can cater for 4-6 teams at any one time

    5) Purpose built gym to cater for all inter county setups

    Take a look at what JP has done with the Rathkeale setup in Limerick and see how an intercounty team can benefit from investment. I know thare arent too many JPs around but the KK county board should get off their arses and start being serious about this.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Here is an article from 3 years ago on the centers of excellence in Ulster. Monaghan, one of the smallest counties in Ireland by population, have a center of excellence since 2008, all of 16 years ago, with 5 pitches, four dressing rooms, a medical room, a gym, a meeting room and an office. The fruits of their investment has been clear to see.

    https://www.gaeliclife.com/counties/ulsters-centres-of-excellence/

    Kilkenny is a long way behind in this. Hopefully Big Phil can get something moving quickly on this but it really needs to get going, the current lack of facilities is desperate.

    Even just from a juvenile point of view, currently you have panels across each age group being split across as many as three different venues each week. Sometimes you are travelling outside the county, sometimes you are going from one end of the county to the other. Imagine the difference it would make if they were all training/playing in the same central venue, with the different age groups coming on before or after.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    I thought the underage squads were split over 3 regions for logistical purposes. This would make sense, rather than dragging chaps from one end of the county to another for training.

    I thoroughly agree about our lack of facilities but did Phil not present a plan a short time ago. It'll take a few years, not weeks!

    Many of the Leinster counties, and others, with centres of excellence don't seem to have much payback in terms of success. The absence of a centre of excellence didn't hinder Kilkenny up to now. But, yes, to state once more - we do need to catch up with regards to facilities. I'll pin my hopes on Phil, not necessarily on the county board.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,587 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Do you think the setup in Rathkeale is good? It's not close to being sufficient



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Re underage squads, dragging chaps from one end of the county to another (or out of the county on many occassions) for training is precisely what happens. Squads are not split based on their location, they are divided based on grading.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    From looking at the various underage squad panels over the years it seemed to me that the city players and club players close to the city were located in Dunmore for instance. And similar situation with North and South club players. I may be wrong.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    Even the local pitches have no stands, it’s not as if we have a summer two of the three city clubs are land locked and cannot expand. A few years back everyone thought the village were mad moving out to the Kells Road venue even the village lads thought so, it doesn’t seem so mad now does it as I said above a bit of vision is all is required. I’m so glad there is so much unity on this topic. The ordinary county board members must also be in favour of these ideas and is up to them to stand up and be counted. Just on another note Waterford GAA seems to be in a bit of trouble financially? They also lacked vision by not going in with WIT at the time even Walsh park was half arsed it should have been double the existing capacity or forget about it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    You proposed 4 pitches, the village has potential for at least eight. We have to have what I proposed up above as an absolute requirement. We have senior,U20’s,minor and several development squads and football to cater for. The dome would be an optional extra.as I said above the county board reps will have to start asking questions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Senditinlow


    Anyone hear any updates on Juvenile Co.Board committee. Last I heard the Senior CCC had to step in to try and help sort out the mess they created regarding grading. Original draft seemed fair but the 2nd draft was a complete mess hence involvement of Senior CCC. I've lost all faith in that committee hopefully next year the clubs come together and vote them all out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭robwen


    My understanding was Phil Hogan is heading up a corporate finance committee, so his role is getting the money in, not putting together plans for how the money is used, would that be correct?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    From what I hear, Phil is a very proud Kilkenny and hurling man. He approached the county board with ideas which included raising funds towards the betterment of Kilkenny hurling. I can't imagine him raising millions, handing it over to the Board, disappearing and allowing the board to continue to hoard the money. Furthermore weren't we informed by a poster here of the investment plans attached to Phil's fund raising.



  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    I would say that is the case but surely he would have some sort of consultancy advice on what direction they should go.



  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭KK36


    Me too, I've lost all faith in them to do perform their roles properly. Favouring their own clubs when it comes to grading and not allowing any questions. Not good enough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Village87


    Johnny Glynn is a big boost to the Galway attack and might hurt us down the line when it comes to Croker



  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Nedflanders02


    Probably tells you what Shefflin thinks of the young lads coming through in Galway if he's going back to Glynn. If he can recapture his 2017/2018 form he will be an asset to them but that's a long time to go without playing intercounty hurling!

    With regards to ourselves and the trip to Ennis on Sunday, what kind of team are we likely to go with? Will he go with similar to the last 2 days or will he give a few more of the newer lads a run. A lot of lads on that panel who have got very little game time and if they don't play this weekend or next, are more than likely not going to see any game time this year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭usualstripes


    I was in Rathkeale a month ago when Maynooth University were playing in the Purcell cup against UL and i Have to day the setup was very good. They played on a full size astro pitch under lights. Beside this pitch were 2 other full size pitches. Before the match was over the Limerick senior hurlers started training on the main pitch under lights. This main pitch, which was in excellent condition, also had a very good stand which could probably seat maybe 3000. (I stand to be corrected on this). The point being is that in Kilkenny we have no facility that could come within a million miles of this setup and this is what gets under my skin.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    The facilities we all crave for ought to be on the way following Phil Hogan's intervention. A small bit of patience is required. We won 36 senior titles without the benefit of a centre of excellence. Limerick's success was achieved without Rathkeale which was only developed recently.

    GAA people throughout the country are dumbfounded when they're told of the facilities Ballyhale Shamrocks have at their disposal. It's only now that their development plans kicked off. How telling it would be if the Shamrocks were to drop back just when their new facilities come on board. The Village had a lot more success before they moved to their now expensive grounds.



  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    Our crowd never want to be leaders they always lagged behind. They will have to get progressive. Remember the old saying “he who hesitates is f….d”. Just going back to the shamrocks I’d say they had four all Irelands won before they owned their own pitch, they used to train on the Knocktopher abbey field which is now the soccer pitch.



  • Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Fred Daly


    Would Buckley park be any good or would it be to small, its sitting there doing nothing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭kksaints


    Too small and it's not the easiest place to access.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    There you go, on the Shamrocks! I'm hopeful that Phil will knock the County Board into modern times. Be patient, we've been waiting a long time, let's give it bit more time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭usualstripes


    I'm not saying that having these facilities will win you all irelands but they certainly add to the type of professionalism that us required for the modern game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats




  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    I think basically we are all agreed with what is required and as grats said maybe we should give big Phil that bit of space. I have every confidence in Phil Hogan it’s the upper echelons of the county board that I have no faith in. If they do get big money it will have to be spent otherwise it would dwindle away or worse.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats




  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 10,376 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    People giving out about all the money spent on Limerick , Dublin etc .... 'almost full time players ' ......

    Now they are calling for acres and acres of pitches and astros because "they certainly add to the type of professionalism that us required for the modern game" ....

    Keeping up with the Jones's ? or trying to out do them ?? 🤔

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



Advertisement