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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,081 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Russia has been financing it's war on Ukraine by selling off some of the gold reserves it accumulated over several years prior to invading. Putin clearly had this planned years prior.

    Russia turns to Gold to raise cash and skirt economic sanctions

    ..but bitcoin.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,036 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    People like the make money, including some politicians.

    Whether it's Bitcoin, or Bitcoin cash, or Bitcoin SV, or Bitcoin ABC turned into Ecash, or Dogecoin, or whatever, it's all the same thing and (apart from the fundamentalists) it's just about making money at the end of the day. Which anyone, including certain politicians, are more than happy with.

    It's investing people's desire to own something scarce, "the next big thing" and their unfailing ability to fall for hype and FOMO, which crypto delivers in spades (and not much else)



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,036 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    True, but it's been slippery to regulate and just seems to have too many heads for regulators to be able to do anything drastic (so far)

    People are never going to tire of going to casino's to gamble, and apparently people don't seem to be tiring of doing the same with crypto tokens/coins.

    The mantra in crypto is always "don't put in more than you can afford to lose", it encapsulates the ethos of the thing - placing the burden of risk on ourselves rather than entities. Lost everything to a hack or exchange collapse? Tough luck, your fault for not taking care of your coins properly. Obviously can't run a national financial system on that ethos, but, as mentioned crypto is a casino cosplaying as a financial system.

    As for losses, the more experienced crypto people I suspect haven't lost much, likewise I'd say most of these boards people are green (some very well green). Unfortunately that usually falls to the waves of the public who FOMO in during the peak of a frenzied hype or get caught in crashes/scams/collapses - and are then reliant on a newer wave paying more than they did in order to sell their bags.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭el diablo


    You appear to be completely clueless on this subject matter or perhaps you're merely an attention-seeking troll. BTC is not "the currency of the dark web". Privacy coins such as M0nero, Pirate Chain, ZCash etc are much more commonly used there. Everything on the BTC blockchain is highly visible and immutable so it would be extremely foolish to use it for criminal activities (although it certainly had a reputation for this in its early days). Tesla stopped accepting BTC due to pressure from the "environmentalists" and the climate cult and not because of its volatility. And it's more a store of value (similar to gold) than a means of exchange or a peer to peer currency nowadays.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,754 ✭✭✭el diablo


    None of your business how much crypto I own. 😆

    I didn't say Musk was an environmentalist (he's not). I agree that EV's are probably more detrimental to the environment from cradle to grave than a modern ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicle but that's another matter. I'm not sure what your point is in regards to "ethical hackers". Warren Buffet is 107 years old and he's very much in the old school of investing. He also missed out on all the technology stocks such as Apple, Tesla etc. Investing in stuff such as Coca Cola, Kelloggs etc is more his niche....

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭BKtje


    I have no problem discussing these matters but can we make a separate thread for it please? We are away off topic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 45,524 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Agreed. It smells like jealousy anyway.



  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Norrie Rugger Head


    " I agree that EV's are probably more detrimental to the environment from cradle to grave than a modern ICE"

    They're not though. Battery extraction is horrific but the detractors always, "conveniently", omit the iron/aluminium of the engine block, the environmental impact of oil extraction/transportation/refinement, and the hundreds of oil spills.

    Electricity generation is also far far more efficient (no matter the power plant fuel) than ICE, producing less pollution per tonne of fuel.



    All this just to point out that the poster is spouting crap in every angle to attempt to bring everyone down.

    All I know is that I'm up, a lot, for the first time in years and never risked more than disposable cash

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,870 ✭✭✭Grumpypants



    You pay an insurance levy on every car, home, & health insurance policy you take out.

    You are paying the banking levy on every transaction you make.

    Your pay check is smaller because the government added the USC to cover the bank bail out.

    Your wages are worth less because governments keep printing money to reduce its value and transfer your wealth to the elite.

    We all pay for this thanks to the super effective well regulated monitory system you are a big fan of.

    Bitcoin hasn't cost you a cent. And everyone with bitcoin is in profit.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,036 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    BTC is used extensively for ransomware, then sent through tumblers.

    Tesla stopped using BTC because of an outcry from investors (mainly over the hypocrisy of using a climate unfriendly asset for a supposedly climate friendly electric vehicle) although there's suspicions Musk also had other motives.

    Steam dropped BTC because it was too volatile and too hard to process returns. It's not just BTC, studies have shown that crypto as a whole is only used for less than 2% of payments.

    Indeed it's mainly used as a "store of value", albeit a highly speculative one. Like penny stocks.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,036 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Yes, everyone holding BTC is in "profit", but with someone else's money. All that money comes from somewhere, your friend, your grandmother, your brother. And yes "institutional money" is someone else's money before that's thrown in.

    It's a mechanism that shifts our wealth between each other, whilst producing nothing (it actually consumes). Other speculative markets do the same, but they usually produce something.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,328 ✭✭✭Potatoeman




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,328 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Wormhole airdrop coming, you can check if you qualify on phantom using the link there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,368 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Clearly when near an all time high, nearly everyone with bitcoin will be in profit.

    Yes, someone is buying at these prices so someone else is paying for that profit.

    What's new there? That's a fact but you have to say, anyone buying at this level is taking a big punt so you couldn't really have any sympathy. Likewise people not selling at current level are taking the gamble forward so really no sympathy for anyone either buying or holding if they get burned from this point.

    I include myself in that - holding a small amount of bitcoin that has doubled in value but hoping for more.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    *Virtual profits in your case. What's the best crypto investment simulator these days? Still holding that dogecoin from 2013?



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,036 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    As mentioned a good few times in these threads, I sold a fair chunk of my portfolio in 2021. Mined Doge in 2014, have sold the majority of that. Learnt in 2017/2018 the number on the screen isn't worth anything until it's cashed out and taxes paid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,081 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I hold bitcoin and am not any of those things which all run on fiat currencies, throughout history and the present. Gold is the currency of despots, in particular Putin.

    All those types of people use phones far more than bitcoin, to facilitate their activities. ISIS was to some extent funded by Qatari's transporting cash in suitcases by private jets. Lets do something about phones, suitcases and private jets.

    There are some real idiots who hold the view that cash should be done away with altogether because they think it facillitates wrong doing by some people, which is akin to the nonsense you are spouting.

    Things are not intrinsically evil, only people.

    I am not surprised you don't know anyone who holds bitcoin and don't have $62K to invest.

    You are seriously way off the topic of this thread and intent on disruption. We have seen your like every time BTC surges to the point it's newsworthy, which is why an alternative thread was formed so people with your mindset could go do whatever you like, so how about you take your anti-excited ranting there: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057835985/is-anyone-else-starting-to-become-a-bit-worried-mod-note-in-first-post

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,036 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    On a side note have been hunting "easy to understand what it is" low cap alts available for cash buys on Coinbase (or Revolut) to second-guess the herd IF there's a frenzy, e.g. NCT Polyswarm up 110% since yesterday, HOPR had a similar jump a few days ago. Super highly risky, but some of the gains are sticking, likely to plummet in the medium term, but always fun if one goes parabolic.

    Usual disclaimer: low cap alts are a rabbit hole of insanity



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,870 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    All time high means all the holders are in profit as everyone bought at a lower price.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,829 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    How much have you put into it yourself? (Not how much is your stake worth)



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,081 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It was an amount I could affford to lose. I'm currently up about 4,600%.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,829 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Well if it wasn’t he is now a gazzillionaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,829 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Well not really. Would have a bit less than 3m. Not small money but not unheard of.

    Regardless, I never asked what they had now, just what they put in



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,081 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It was, but I have made more conventional investments that exceed that figure. Right when Buffet was warning of a recession at the start of the Covid pandemic and against the stock market as it was falling, I piled in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Ye need to be getting to the point much quicker than that Donald, we are now at a point where it’s almost impossible not to make money on any random coin, terribly busy folks so we are.





  • Registered Users Posts: 20,081 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    His point is he didn't think I would have the where with all to make an investment on that scale.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,829 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Well I was wondering because they felt the need to sneer at an anonymous poster that they were "not surprised you don't know anyone who holds bitcoin and don't have $62K to invest.". So I thought it was a fair question to ask them whether they had had that amount to invest themselves.

    Nobody knows anyone else's circumstance. They could be a teenager or a pensioner. People can do what they want, but I wouldn't see it as the mark of a decent person to be sneering and gloating (especially if the bulk of their own position is due to a one-off concentrated "win") at someone else for not having some arbitrary fixed sum of money


    "Considerably richer than you" vibes



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  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Cmon, you are well aware that beeker came on here to throw a few digs and just got a few back



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