How far does an EV really go? On a cold horrible day in winter - several current EVs tested

If i was doing 600km journeys most weeks of the year i wouldnt bother with an EV either to be honest, you could easily make it work (give you are travelling to where there is an abundance of chargers) if you wanted to but you dont want to so no big deal.

But the snarky i dont suffer from bladder or concentration issues doesnt serve your post very well, these arent guidelines EV owners came up with, its no better than the i can have 4 pints and drive perfectly well brigade.

Cheap home charging is pretty achievable on regular d/n rates if you dont want to have a shorter super low priced window, i generally go for one of those because i run a heat pump as well so between that and the car half of my total energy usage is at a 17c night rate.

Also given the mileage you are doing id wager depreciation on whatever you buy will be high, EV depreciation is topical at the moment, that will flip again i'm sure as ICE vehicles phase out.

in summary you are arguing that for you an EV would be inconvenient, under the circumstances you have outlined id probably agree but that doesnt change the fact that for a lot people they are perfectly fine.

It's the person doing 600km journeys most weeks of the year who should be buying an EV!

They're the ones who'll save a shitload of money and, let's not forget, produce less pollution!

They won't have a petrol station at their destinations either. They are unwilling to stop at petrol stations on route.

So after the first day how do they do 600 km of the trip on the third and subsequent days.

Maybe it's an atomic car they need.

Some stats that I find interesting from that

MG4 has no heat pump - you learn something new every day

The ID7 without heat pump isn't massively less efficient than the one with

The on board computers from BYD are giving questionable efficiency measures. But the Seal and the Dolphin give the same kWh/mi in the test which is impressive for the larger car

Casati talked about doing that 600km round trip 40 times a year, not daily? Basically once a week for work.

He also said there's no destination charging where he stays in Dublin. That seems reasonable. He could be staying at a friend's house/apartment, or in a hotel that doesn't have destination charging. My limited experience of hotel destination chargers is that if they are available then the few that are working of the few that they have seem to be taken by someone (usually in a 530e) who has arrived at 5pm and leaves it plugged in until they leave the next morning. So even those hotels that have destination chargers can't be relied on.

A friend who's a rep says that even though some of the companies he visits have 20/30 chargers for staff, none of them have a charger for reps. So he's also dependent on public chargers.

If you don't have small kids, then it's normal to drive for at least 3 hour without needing to stop. In the diesel, we would do 4 no problem, but in the EV we can still manage 3 hours between breaks.

We do a bit higher than average mileage and expect fuel savings in the region of €2000 per year with a roughly 60/10/30 split of night/day/public charging. Over the next 10 years while we have the car, it will even out the higher purchase cost vs a replacement diesel and be a much nicer place to spend that driving time. It will also be better for air quality and global warming than our previous diesel. It's not going to solve all the world's problems and whatabout US/China/Russia/etc but I think it's better for my kids' futures than getting a new Tiguan for another 10 years.

And novels aren't the sole preserve of Casati :)

Yes this is the reality - I’m staying at house with street parking, I lock up the car and cycle or bus around Dublin. I could after work finishes, head back to the house and then drive off somewhere for a high speed charger but honesty I don’t have the time for that messing around, traffic in Dublin is a nightmare too. This is common for a lot of people.

Echo chamber here.

People give examples where EV don’t work for them well , yet others calling this a BS and defend EVs blaming people of not wanting to live with EV limitations.

If you can't care less why are posting on this thread.

Thread title is long distance journeys in an EV. What else would we taking about in this thread.

So it's doesn't matter if your destination has a charger. Because you are getting there on a bike or bus. The car could be parked anywhere for hours.

Lol ..

you love a LOL, embrace it dont be ashamed.

I could counter that people give examples where EV work great for them yet others call this BS and defend ICE and go into all the reasons why EV wouldnt work for them, the looming spectre of queuing endlessly at broken chargers being the most common example (in 4.5 years it has never happened to me though)

Not sure it me your referring to but I do max 320km non stop and defo don’t do 600km every day! In my post I said 40 times pa but it might be just 30 trips and some of them a bit shorter. I do about 25k total pa maybe a bit more.