March 8th - What’s your vote? **Mod Note In Post #677**

Has it been confirmed what will the effect be on assets of co-habiting couples?

Ie. House in one person's name, unmarried with children and relationship breaks up. Does the other partner have a right to the house or split of sales proceeds if sold?

I would assume the above would be a durable relationship. So in effect are all non married couples co habitting now pretty much married once this amendment is passed and enacted?

There looks to be a shocking lack of clarity on what changes will result from this amendment passing.

Endeavour and strive are synonyms, but support and ensure are different.

That is a very accurate take on it.

Prime Time on Tuesday, Michael Martin kept referring to a lady who appeared in a video who advocated for a yes vote to the family amendment. Let's call her Mary. He kept saying "Mary this, Mary that" and wouldn't answer any direct questions relating to facts, such as what is a Durable Relationship.

Then last night on The Tonight Show, Helen McEntee consistently said how disappointing it will be if a no vote is passed as many people will wake up on Saturday thinking they aren't families. When McDowell presented her with a cold hard case of 2 women trying to claim visas in Ireland on the back of a durable relationship, McEntee had no answer (despite her name as Minister for Justice being listed on the court documents).

Ignore the emotion on this. Let government try again in a few years with a properly presented argument.

Hopefully this will be no/no.

They won't be successful. This is nonsense and lies.

Any supreme court case would have to look at the legislatures intention.

Peader Tobin very clear , concise , eloquent he is wiping the floor with OGorman.

OGorman doesn't even know what his own referendum is about. We have coalition contradicting each other Left right and centre when a micro phone is put in front of them.

Yes voters be careful what you vote for.

So it’s Yes - Yes from

FF, FG, Labour, Greens, Sinn Fein, Social Dems.

Its a No - No from

Catholic Church, Aontu, Fringe/trouble makers/wind up merchants.

The new wording may not be perfect but it’s better than what is there at present.

Personally, I tend to lean towards voting Yes in any referendum. The constitution needs to evolve and modernise. My dead grandparents are not the ones who should be shaping the present. Likewise my viewpoints will be old hat when my unborn grandchildren are running the show. They should feel free to change the constitution to suit their world.

If there was a supreme court challenge on what defines a durable relationship they would have to examine the Dail and Seanad debate.

Cases to recognise polygamy would be thrown out.

Constitutional expert Oran Doyle

Potentially negative consequences that no one knows about?

Id never get out of bed in the morning if I lived my life like that.

The govs whole argument now is resorting to emotional blackmail they are all trotting out " think of the children this Sunday if it's a no vote" pretty pathetic tactic

Abstain.

It's a well meaning referendum that was intended to mask over decades of government intransigence and neglect but ended up in a badly-communicated clusterfuck. I still can't see any real positives to the changes as described so I'm pretty ambivalent about it. Besides, my polling station is 20 miles away and I'm not arsed going near the M50 on a Friday.

Pretty surprised to see the No vote is so strong - I wasn't expecting that tbh