Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

It's a little weird as the USA is very drug liberal

No answers for the rest of the post then? I see you.

A disingenuous post. Harry was suing the Sun in early 2020. His case was that a palace aide (the criminal in your yarn) was leaking stories (cash for briefings). This prompted two palace inquiries and a police investigation. None of them, Harry included, had any evidence of leaking. Now Harry would have been informed of this and, to protect an innocent employee, told him to remove the aide from his case. He didn’t want to do that and because he was violating whatever terms were agreed in the Sandringham agreement then consequences kicked in because of his stubbornness to accept the facts. We’ve seen from his security review that even after two judicial reviews he is reportedly still seeking to appeal. You can blame others all you like but at least try to see his own blame in what happened and in the end even if you have zero factual evidence of leaking then you can always sell the (false) idea that there was leaking. It sure does make for a good (deflective) yarn but when scrutinized it is just that – a yarn.

The staffer lied about his connection to Dan Wootton. He said he hardly knew him, yet there was a photo of him at Wootton's intimate birthday party (it was on Wootton's instagram account, so publicly available). Some investigation by Simon Case (now in trouble over bullying claims and going sick to avoid Covid Enquiry) and the Met police that they didn't find the relationship between the staffer and Wootton. And the staffer who lied is still working for William (he was seen in the car with William when he went to visit Kate in hospital).

And lets not forget that the Met is up to its neck in corruption charges and members of the Met were found to have been sending racist messages about Meghan Markle in a Whats App group.

Read all about it here:

'Elite Met police officers avoid jail despite sharing racist WhatsApp jokes about Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, Prince William and Kate

And these where from the royal and diplomatic protection section.

'Browning' Street' indeed.

It demonstrates that Case's would do or say anything that made his life easier. He was also behind the sponsorship of Carrie Johnson's wallpaper, indicating that his ethics were a bit hit and miss. He has also been cited for bullying by staff in the PM's office. When it got a bit hot, he got sick to avoid testifying in the covid enquiry. That all tells you exactly who he is. Christened 'The Fly' by Prince Harry because where there was ****, he was usually in it.

The staffer's parner was selling stories to Dan Wootton about Harry & Meghan. They have the payment records. This staffer is still working for Prince William. The whistleblower who worked for Dan's newspaper and reported these payments was afraid to testify in court in case he would never get a job again. Thats why they got away with it. But there were illegal payments for private information.

So you believe Tom Bower's version who just compiles all the bullshit lies in the trashy tabloids and puts them into book format. This way, he can't be sued becuase his defence will be that he was only repeating what was said elsewhere.

You only regurgitate what is written in the press. You have not read 'Spare', and you have not watched the Netflix series. You get all your opinions second/third hand from the trashy British press.

I've heard only one version of how they met. Harry asked a friend of Meghan's for an introduction having seen Meghan on her (Harry's friend) instagram feed.

What versions do you have?

As for the Jordan wedding - it was the way he did it. Anyway, there was no one waiting to talk to the bride as the person behind Kate in the queue was still talking to the groom, so not necessary to rush her. In fact the bride would have been standing on her own waiting for the next person to come to her.

Knauf is a snake. And he will be found out, just like Case will be.

Real bang of panic and desperation the last few days. Going completely into tin foil hat territory.

They are the newspaper records. It was an employee of the newspaper who reported the illegal payments.

As an aside, in case you missed it. A judge has ruled that a list of illegal payments made to PIs for the Leveson Enquiry are now admissable in court. The papers were objecting to their usage.

Can you provide the terms of the Sandringham Agreement that prevented the naming of an official in court papers?

And can you show where it stated that their security would be cut off if they did so.

A Palace aide briefing the press with inside scoops for cash is a serious issue. Serious enough to warrant a police investigation. The Sandringham Agreement was agreed in January 2020 but then Harry decided to sue the Sun in April 2020. Unless the grey suits had a crystal ball capable of predicting Harrys future decisions then any explicit written agreement that January couldn’t have included prevention of him including officials in a legal case.

Part of the agreement was that they mutually agreed to a 12 month long review before they decided what they wanted to do. They tried to wrangle half in/out but were given the flexibility to take time to decide what they wanted to do i.e. keep on as working royals or not. They would live under ‘effective security’ for 12 months in a Canadian compound with security (initially) being paid by that government. That was another part of the agreement. Dig into the recent judicial review documents to read about that.

Harry took his case against the Sun within that agreed time period of review. After naming an official then it was taken seriously and separate inquiries and investigations happened and with no evidence of any cash for leaks against the named aide. While still operating under the 12 month review period Harry agreed to, he was very reasonably asked to remove the aides name but he was not prevented from continuing his desire to sue The Sun. He could either accept factual reality and remove the name or he could plough ahead and risk consequences from those with a duty of care towards an employee prospectively being implicated in something he was innocent of. What would you do in that case?

Strike one was hopping from Canada to Tyler Perrys property which was also a violation of the agreement and that is why security consequences kicked in and which Harry has since spun as his security being pulled and as something he was forced to do i.e. if they were staying in Canada and that government removed security then tranches of 700k were being earmarked to cover security costs as per the Queens wishes. Harrys refusal to remove the name from his case was strike two. The interview with Oprah was such a softball affair that when Harry said he was financially cut off Oprah didn’t ask the obvious follow up question i.e. Why were you cut off?

And she was asked about her washing up liquid letter again!

I wonder whether Katie Couric was winding Meghan up when she said, "will you tell that story when you wrote that story to P&G, because I don't know if everyone's heard it".

Also, Meghan could have used the example of the Sussex Squad cyber bullying with their posting vile fabrications about William and Catherine. But no, it was, as we have come to expect, all about her.

Oh, the ironing.

Another logical fallacy. I don't read social media and would encourage everyone to do the same but the comments on it about me are not catty but cruel.

So one woman who was vilely abused is whining the other is powerful.

Gotcha.

Again you know well that Royals in general get dogs abuse daily - indeed anyone with any semblance of power places themselves in the firing lines of modern social media and all that that entails.

Meaghan elected to align herself with one of those families- whilst images like chimpanzee babies is rightfully condemned there’s a level of criticism that comes with the job.

Very few rational people would criticise Meaghan for referencing such abuse - but when she makes it her fulltime job, from the comfort of her multimillion dollar mansion, surrounded by minions to do her bidding, sorry now but public opinion won’t support that - and it’s public opinion she needs to keep the dollars flowing in. There are far more urgent and life changing issues to concern ourselves with than Meaghans feelings.

Your short pithy one line responses might make you feel like you’ve landed a “gotcha”- but really it just looks stupid at this stage.