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2020s the Reign of Narcissism ?

  • 06-03-2024 12:54am
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    MéFéin, Me Mine, I. Era of pronouns. First person singular is the overriding one, but third person singular omits multitude of forms next. Second, and plural forms may take a rear seat these days.

    what had brought bus to this most narcissistic of modern times?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,306 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    You must have missed the 90's and the Celtic money grab !

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on




  • Yep I grabbed that much, but it’s filtering down to tons of the little people. Mainly the young people, but plenty of people my vintage succumbing too. I even notice my own vanity taking root where I had little or none before.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    If I could be arsed to find the quote from that ancient Greek philosopher I'd post it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,306 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I find it different. In the late 90's' early 200's people were going mad on credit. Buying cars , lorries , tractors, houses. In 98 you'd swear people were on drugs and money was burning a hole in their pocket with no end to it.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    The irony ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    The young people? In 1991, the most common word out of my then 3-year old niece's mouth was "MINE!!".

    And are you forgetting The Former Guy? King of narcissism.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    My buddy Darcy swears he is the most humble of them all, his repeated claims he says, are due to his "Darcycism".



  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I haven't noticed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Well, it's not for nothing that the Baby Boomer generation were also known as Generation me. We're just seeing the cultural effects of them through their descendants now. They've already screwed up business and the environment, so their offspring is just following on.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Id say we all have a touch of it.

    I'm more fascinated by the rise of the...feelings trump evidence culture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,434 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Most of us were on drugs in 98, ecstasy 3rd wave was in full flight





  • My mother sold the Rathmines family home during that time, ordinary semi-D, it fetched an unseemly sum and long story short set me up for life as I was the only child. Yes, she & I were mightily chuffed, and I still look back with a fondness on that era that so ms y wouldn’t. Wealth & spending will always intoxicate the human mind, it’s the way we were built, unless you make the decision to live an ascetic life.

    But I’m really talking about the individualism that characterises life now. We hear daily about “mental health” from Individuals going through the normal hurdles of life and comparing it to very serious mental health issues that do affect some people. The message is increasingly an out individualism as the expense of community. We hear we can be exactly what we want to be, do what we want to do, irrespective of consequences on others. Mé Féin all the way.

    I see it in myself, I used to be a much more charitable person, but I’ve found myself involved in my own individualism. Everybody else is doing it and I would feel badly done by if I didn’t do my own little bit of self-importance, it being the norm these times.

    I grew up in an era where you deferred to others, I was brought up to believe others were at least a bit more important than me. That was Catholicism of course, and we know how such deference worked out. We’ve gone the other extreme now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,434 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I'm in the office today and lads are wearing "mom jeans"

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭ballyharpat


    I think Covid really exacerbated it. I used to be very involved in the community and in my neighborhood, reporting problems to the guards and council, getting improvements that benefitted all of us and acting on antisocial behaviour'.

    In the last two years, I have some neighbours that stopped parallel parking and just drive straight into a parking spot, then instead of parking up to the car in front, they reverse back, leaving 10 feet in front, then another lady started doing it, so now two other neighbours that work long shifts have no space to park in on that row. The thing is, they can do this, it's not against the law, but 'can' do something, does not mean you 'should'. It's lead to lots of issues and a complete lack of community in the area. It also drives down the value of houses, as now people see how few spaces there are when they want to buy here-given the limited parking spaces, this is a big issue.

    I've spoken to a therapist that took two years off, he was tired of the narcissism and the way people do not want to accept responsibility for their actions. One lady was carrying in a recorder to have him saying things in her life were her responsibility, another guy took him to court , and won, for his wife leaving him after some sessions-this is just the tip of the iceberg, look at the rental crisis, landlords are leaving because tenants are not leaving their properties, other landlords are gouging tenants at a massive rate-this was happening on a much smaller level before when people acted, in some way, for the good of society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭B2021M


    And we've probably never been closer to communism. But yeah all narcissism too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga



    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    ps wheres my free,fancy rte flip-flops...?

    pps wheres my wheres my rte macaroons,kevin?

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,892 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    It’s more than feelings trump evidence, many of the people who will go by “f* feelings” are guilty of the same thing: being loud and obnoxious trumps evidence or all opinions have the same merit. It’s like some kind of hyper solipsism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,434 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    It's only wearing a Ché T-shirt sort of communism.

    Irish people are far too greedy to be proper socialists.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Ché T-shirt and Chanel belt buckle kind of nation. All.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Social media has driven much of this regrettable trend over the past 15+ years and Covid exacerbated it, the era of the endless FB selfies on people's posts, day in, day out.

    People are certainly much more selfish and self-centred now combined with a big sense of entitlement than when I was young. Also, not willing to own one's actions, take responsibility and blaming everyone else for a situation of their own doing is commonplace now.

    And then there's the atomisation of society, the decline of family and the rise of superficiality and image driven by "celeb" culture which is IMO is toxic.

    As Ireland embraced secularisation and prosperity over the past three decades, in many ways the baby was thrown out with the bathwater.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Before everyone gets into a crescendo of giving out about everything.

    Something I have heard is the phenomenon of an individual going in to work in an office or any work situation and nobody saying hello, so an older person I'm acquainted with said it is happening, and because of that, they make a point of saying good morning loudly when they go in, so from that a primary school teacher was telling me that she makes a point of teaching the children to say hello if someone comes into the room.

    What I don't understand is why would you have to teach a child to say hello.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    seriously....? i despair...we're not going to make it as a species,are we?


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    ps wheres my free,fancy rte flip-flops...?

    pps wheres my wheres my rte macaroons,kevin?

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    What does any of this have to do with this thread?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Photobox


    This x 100, I would also add the nanny state we live under has added to less personal responsibility.

    Post edited by Photobox on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,774 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    As I sat in the canteen at work yesterday, alone, surrounded by young ones with Bluetooth headphones on and eyes fixed to tiny screens, I wondered what kind of distopia am I in.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,514 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Social media plus Covid has encouraged some problematic behaviours and affected people's social skills. I remember at the start of the pandemic, I worked in the public service and as we were trying to plan for the looming apocalypse, I dealt with people from various state bodies who were at pains to stress how they were ESSENTIAL workers doing critical, essential work. When, objectively, given what was happening, they weren't. Just living in their own little bubbles and full of sh*te.

    Then as the pandemic got going, healthcare workers were worshipped as martyrs and heros by many and how did they react? Filmed "dancing" videos to post on social media, look at MEEE! Jesus wept. Subsequently, as things got back to normal I've dealt with many healthcare workers and the amount of arrogance, rudeness, disrespect and condescension I've encountered is, I'd say worse than before. I think they started to believe their own BS.

    Post edited by BrianD3 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭ruth...less


    Think the social media thing does increase narcissism tbh cause it's like you're talking to people but alot of the time you're talking at people or announcing ****, **** you wouldn't announce to people in certain circumstances because you'd naturally guard yourself or protect them.

    For example someone has a significant loss or bereavement...Ive seen it in whatsApps and things, everyone aklowkedges the loss then suddenly and I understand it but then it's like..'oh I got my hair done today and I chipped a nail ' but the person before has just had life changing issue or whatever it is and obviously people are just innocently going on with their lives but it can seem harsh when someone is in grief or hurt or you know. It can seem cold even though it's not intended. I guess it's a realistic slap in the face of life goes on that I think wasn't always exposed to people who are vulnerable at that time before social media.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,832 ✭✭✭✭DvB


    I tend not to post in AI, but had to after reading this.

    Excellent post.

    "I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year" - Charles Dickens




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    (un)social media, decades of people getting well fcuked in regards their most critical of needs, housing, health care, rapidly rising precariousness of life in general etc etc, yea, id say its no wonder where we are.....



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well done for tagging that on to a discussion on narcissim.

    Social media has made people less social and more turned in on themselves.

    It dosent occur to some that having to listen and take part in banal chit chat, saying hello, shaking hands offering tea and coffee is a social good and is part of being less narcissist.

    There was an article recently in the Irish Times about young people and fear of talking on the phone.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ive autism myself, and a lot of these behaviors are akin to the disorder, and its really not healthy for us, we are social beings, whether we like it or not, physical connection is absolutely critical for our well being, im not completely anti unsocial media, cause here i am on it, but too much, is simply that, but its clearly been designed towards our more addictive traits and nature, and thats not necessarily a good thing....

    ...im hearing more and more problems about the serious inability of younger generations to engage in traditional social interactions, which is causing some significant issues including in the work place, this is a problem...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Ok boomer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    no idea if thats pointed towards me, but im far from it, my generation is also knee deep in social media, and i frankly find it very very weird, boards is the only social media i do, ive enough addictions and a brain that just constantly tries to distract me....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Was talking to the OP. Her generation are the ones with holiday homes and opposing new developments as it'll bring their house value down. That generation did a lot of ladder pulling upping and left younger folks in a mess. Not to mention totally destroying our environment and ignoring the threat of climate change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...completely agree, and in line with the thread, theres a lot of narcissism in such.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,194 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    the very same morally superior people who boasted about how many vaccinations they had are out in force today .. ‘I voted Yes & Yes’

    Insufferable bores!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    the very same WEF conspiracy theory anti-vaccine racist absolute nut jobs are out in force today with No/No to be fair



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Just watched the First thirty minutes of a Netflix docu-series entitled "Arnold". It is indeed about "Arnold" and not much else beside him. I found myself a good reason to go walk the dog.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Please explain, how does 'ladder pulling upping' work and how did boomers leave us in a mess?

    I honestly dont know anyone, of any generation, who would purposely destroy the environment, and most people are trying to do their own small bit to help, ie less car travel, more sustainable household habits, recycling, less printing, to name a few.

    Some people are better at it allright, but tbf to older generations, they typically didn't have two car households or take several flights a year, or use tumble dryers, or buy fast fashion, or have groceries, food and products delivered, or constant tech upgrades, or even central heating and as for disposable everything - where to even start with that!

    I'm sure there are numerous other conveniences we take for granted now that contribute to cc and thats not on boomers or older generations because they just didn't have excess stuff, that's on us. It's always easier to blame someone else though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    I miss the nineties



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