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Hyundai Ioniq 5

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭obi604


    I’ve been watching a few Ioniq 5’s on donedeal etc.

    still up there……. And since November, not a stir in price either, strange.

    Do dealers just like to have cars sit there for months on end. Surely does not make sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    How much are you actually looking to spend? You might have to go with a different brand.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭obi604




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    You might be better getting an ID4 then because I don't see a dealer dropping €5K+ unless Hyundai drop the purchase price for new cars.

    The 58KW are around 30K now aren't they.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭bonoman66


    Yep - that's why I contacted Hyundai Ireland to verify the actual service interval (which is different to the free annual 'health check' each year for the first 5 years of the vehicles life). Dealer had set mine to 15,000 KMs or 1 year which conflicted with the information in the owners manual so I reached out to Hyundai Ireland & got that 2 year / 30,000KMs whichever comes first verification etc..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭obi604


    You know me better than I know myself 😂😂😂

    id love the bigger battery, but the price of them is just a bit too high. Even the price of the smaller battery is high


    like a 77 ID4 can be got for under 30k.

    but trying to get an Ioniq 5 smaller 52 battery for under 30 is very rare bar 2 or 3 cases.

    Post edited by obi604 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭tomister


    Genuine Q - what spec are you looking for. I’ve a 221 58kw premium in Cyber Grey that I need to sell as I’ve decided to pick up a Model Y while they’re on 0% finance. The garage I bought from can’t take it back as they’ve no room so I now have to sell it through the likes of Autobuy etc. Fully serviced (45km health check just done). I know roughly what I’ll get from Autobuy so could definitely hit your under 30k price point



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭obi604




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  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭tomister


    Drop me a DM and we could chat there. Mines an original Premium spec with the pop out handles etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 JohnRi


    Hi all. I have recently gotten a new Ionic 5 77kwh about 3 weeks ago. I have taken lots of useful information from this boards topic and would like to say many thanks for anyone who has contributed with their advice and answer to any questions others have posted in this thread or other EV related threads which I have browsed in recent months. A lot of my own questions have generally been posted by someone else and helpfully answered previously.


    With regard to the above question posted by OLD Diesal, I have not seen the real time range efficiency of the ioniq 5 discussed by others in the thread (apologies if this is the case).


    I am wondering if other Ioniq 5 owners with experience of more time and driving would be happy to estimate and post the typical efficiency they see with their car? Currently I mean, this time of year conditions etc so I can somewhat compare with my own?

    Such as perhaps a general total range on a 100% charge (or an 80% charge whatever it is you do regularly)?

    Or even a Km/KWH that is an average? The blue link app is telling me from 12/01/2024 to 10/02/2024 my average consumption is 20.53kWh/100km.

    I understand this is highly variable on lots of factors (battery temperature/ tyres, air conditioning/other features which drain the batter/ speeds etc-- again thanks to the forum for this information). As someone who had recently purchased, I wonder how is one to know if current efficiency is that what would be expected with the current conditions and style of driving VS something actually being wrong with the car and need to question Hyundai and the dealer about the efficiency?


    Many thanks for any information shared on this



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    I think the missus is averaging around 160Wh/km over 31K in her base Executive. She can do Dublin airport using about 42% of battery, 152km. But cannot see 300km as being realistic if much motorways.

    I have used the car on a regular route on 100 and 80 kmh roads and have got as low as 120Wh/km driving carefully but not slowly. It can be a very efficient car but hers has no heat pump so efficiency will suffer when low temperatures.

    Overall I would guess it’s about 20-25% less efficient than my Model 3 RWD. Not bad for a big blocky car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭joe1303l




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    A lot of new EV owners often think there is something wrong with their new car when the efficiency numbers don't match the WLTP.

    20kWh/100 km wouldn't be unusual at this time of year.

    My 58kW Exec is giving me about 16kWh/100km but I have a 45 km commute on national roads. The efficiency drops big time if I do a lot of stop/start driving, or if I am doing motorway runs.

    Once temperatures go above 10 degrees consistently your numbers should improve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    That's absolutely fine for consumption figures this time of year. I'm getting about the same in a cupra born these days which has an average of 15.7kwh per 100kms over 30000kms in 18 months. In the Etron it's up around 30 since I bought it in january, but that's 400bhp and heavy, a thirsty beast relatively speaking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    I'm in an Ioniq 6 which has the same 77kWh battery and is built on the same platform as the Ioniq 5 albeit the I6 is a different shape.

    The real world range for me during the recent colder weather has been about 400km - 100% to 0% in theory (18.75kWh/100km) if there is a lot of motorway driving and about 450km (16.9kWh/100km) if I'm on mainly national / local roads. I always precondition to the fast DC chargers on longer trips, a warm battery will give you better efficiency and a much faster charge.

    I find that driving in continuous heavy rain and very wet roads hits the efficiency hard, even at slower speeds. I always set the heating to 22 degrees on auto 1, use the demister and the heated seats if I want. I'd rather have lower efficiency than be driving in a cold car :) I keep regen at L3, not sold on ipedal (L4) yet. I rarely drive in sport or eco mode, staying in the middle of the options.

    Blue link has recorded my average consumption at 17.3kWh/100km for the last month (I did 3000km), so the 20.5kWh/100km you mention looks reasonable assuming mixed driving speeds. Check your tyre pressures are correct - I'm not sure what they should be for the I5, maybe 38 psi?

    As with all EVs, the efficiency will improve as the temperature/ weather gets better.

    Enjoy the car!



  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    I keep regen at L3, not sold on ipedal (L4) yet.

    I pretty much only ever use Auto (rural) or iPedal (urban) modes. It's one of the things that niggles me about the Ioniq 5: the fact that it won't stay in iPedal mode if you shift to reverse or turn off the car. I would really rather it stayed in whatever mode I put it in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    It's because the official fuel efficiency is done on L3 the car has to default to that. It's annoying when you forget to go back to ipedal after doing a reverse.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭Old Jim


    Posted this to the other thread but might be interest to some here.

    2023 Ioniq 5 Executive 58kWh

    Dislikes:

    -       Lights – Got flashed a lot. Have had to turn the height selector wheel down to the 2 setting. I guess it is the LED lights people don’t like. Auto dimming is slow to react and sometimes just switches on full beams when behind a car. I drive on dipped lights permanently now.

    -       Door Handles. Impossible to find in the dark and feel like they have been designed for left handed people.

    -       Navigation – In-built mapping is poor compared to Google maps. Will ignore a large town and show an obscure townland beside it. Hard to find places when searching.

    -       Seat belts. They rattle like crazy. Have had to stick loads of foam padding on front seats and rear door pillars to stop them banging against hard plastic.

    -       Usuals. Rear wiper would be nice and the lane keep assist doesn't work with country roads too well

    Likes:

    -       Dislikes are relatively minor. Nice car, very happy with it. V2G feature was handy during recent power cut.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭PN14


    I have 96k kms on an iconic 5 (221 so might actually be the smaller battery early iconic 5s had slightly smaller batter maybe 73)

    My average usage over 2 years is currently 20kwh/100km

    This was actually 19 odd until cold spell in January where it has drifted up would expect of will drop back to 19 over summer again on long term average

    This has a large proportion of motorway mileage though at speed limits as i generally do limerick Dublin at least 1 if not twice a week

    Motorway usage over winter usually sits at around 24. Around local roads in limerick 18/18.5 would be normal. All generally at speed limits with AC at 21deg. If I recharge in Dublin couple days driving in and around Dublin out on M50 back in etc would show usage of 14kwh/100kms.

    Milage range depends really. My average range in Winter generally on average 320kms. Dropped to just over 300kms in cold spell. 350kms currently. Will be north of 400kms in summer. This is with a fairly large proportion of motorway miles.

    On average for me car has an effective of 350kms. Anyone asks this is what I tell them. Sometime better sometimes worse but for the average person that asks "whats the mileage like" 350kms is my answer for my driving.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 JohnRi


    Thank you very much for sharing and with this level of detail. More than helpful to know of another's average kwh/km efficiency, especially over larger sample size of 96K Km.

    I similarly am doing largely motorway 110--120kmph speeds. I am interested obviously to see the range hopefully increase in summer. If it does, I will feel more assured that I am in and around expected/average.

    Perhaps there should be regulation on EV manufacturers to share the average efficiency that all users of each model are achieving. Could even subgroup it by country etc. Data I assume they all have with the apps/systems in each car. I'm sure they would have their excuses aplenty of disclaimers about the weather, temperature etc but it would be far more realistic and practical/useful to anyone thinking about moving to EVs than the unachievable range that is advertised.

    Thanks to all for the helpful replies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭GPoint


    100% true about the the lights

    I hate these Ioniq 5 ‘s on the road and I do flash them. Absolutely idiotic headlight design. Lenses in the middle are the ones that blind oncoming traffic. Glad at least one driver adjusted his lights!



  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭tomister


    Interestingly I noticed it’s only on the Exec and Exec Plus that look like they’ve their full beams on. I had a premium and my middle ones weren’t as bright as the Exec Plus when dipped. I was also flashing them thinking they had their fulls on



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Missus has the front air flap problem. Motor gone. Bit of a pain, I am away atm and she had to take a half day yesterday to be diagnosed. And whenever the part comes in another half day to have fitted.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    Yes, I have that as well, going in next week.

    Having a motor that low down in the car is just asking for trouble, it's going to collect all sorts of dirt and gunk from the road.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    My thoughts exactly. Had mine done about a month ago.



  • Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭mrm



    @denismc, Were you waiting long from diagnosis until part arrived in for the repair? I am about 6 weeks waiting now, and in that time the car has developed three other faults (none stopping me driving).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    I had mine diagnosed before Christmas, I gave them a ring last week to see if the part had come in and it has.

    If I hadn't called I have a feeling I might be waiting a lot longer.

    AFAIK there is a recall for this issue so I would have thought they will need a lot of parts.

    Edit: I think I maybe wrong about the recall, I thought I read it on another forum.

    Post edited by denismc on


  • Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭mrm


    Did not know it was on a recall. I'll ring on Monday.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,277 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Ev database is a good resource for efficiency and tends to be accurate in me experience



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    Waiting for prices to slip a little more since Hyundai have dropped their RRP. Looking at the top spec model and I think it's a toss up with the EV6. I've had a quick look at the thread and people seem happy enough.


    Any gotchas with this car?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,378 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I don't think they've dropped the price at all. Where'd you see they had?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭k123456




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    Yeah I think I saw the top spec was on the website at 60k not that long ago (maybe I seen it somewhere else?) but it's now listed as 55k. Dealerships seem to be sitting around 58k at the minute but I do wonder if this'll start to come down slowly as the market cools. The 1.9% APR is what is really pulling me in. I can get this for a reasonably lower montly/lend cost than an EV6 or similar. MSL are charging 8+% rates for a Seal so as far as I'm concerned the Ioniq 5 is currently looking a good deal.


    I think maybe the SIMI price list had it at 60k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    Updated Ioniq5 revealed, with rear wiper!

    Hopefully they'll have ironed all the issues from the first version.

    https://insideevs.com/news/710930/2025-hyundai-ioniq-5-updates/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    Nice to see a refresh, bigger battery is great. I don't know how I feel about the buttons by the cup holder, seems like a recipie for disaster (if you're me).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    I was in a Kia dealer earlier and they had 1.9% on an EV6 GT in the showroom, I assume it's on the other cars but I wasn't looking at buying so didn't ask.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    Has anyone got solid figures on service costs on these? I seen earlier in the thread the talk of €1000 services which I doubt is true unless it's to replace the coolant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭tomister


    Servicing costs does vary wildly by dealer. For the 30k service I paid 150€ but was quoted 300€ for the same service by my local dealer. 60k service could be between 600-700€ as they replace the battery coolant



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    Sounds decent enough, yeah I'd be going for a local certified mechanic rather than the dealer. AFAIK it's not required to use the dealership but it has to be within the specified service window. 60k would be once every 5 or 6 years, I can live with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Someone posted earlier that they checked their coolant at 60k, it was OK so they didn't change it. So there will be a €600+ charge to change coolant, but not always at 60k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    While you can go outside the dealer network to get work done if you need to use the warranty or are looking for good will then it'll work against you. You do have consumer protection on your side but it's a hard fight against the motor trade to get your consumer rights so you could be without a car for a long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    I had the 60k service done before Christmas, at a Hyundai dealership.it looks like they didn't change the coolant but I have a receipt saying 60k service was carried out to Hyundai specifications!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    Getting anyone other than a dealer to change battery coolant in an EV is something I would be very careful about and give a lot of thought to before I'd pull the trigger.

    I have had a couple of cars over the years that have been literally months outside the warranty period and the ability to lean on goodwill from the manufacturer was worth a lot of money to me at the time to sort out major problems (ICE cars).

    Of course a certified mechanic could likely do a coolant change (assuming Hyundai would supply genuine parts to them), but it's a gamble if there is a warranty claim subsequently.

    Given the very low costs of maintenance of an EV overall, I'd stick with dealers for the first three years at least.



  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭DaveByDavid


    Anyone has 12v battery issues?

    it died on us once I think during first year - thought nothing of it.

    Then it went 1st Feb this year, and yesterday and now gone again today.

    always works after a jump start.

    since 1st Feb I’ve been paranoid about pre-heating etc and then going on short journeys so haven’t been doing that.

    After jump start yesterday I drove 30 mins before car was turned off. Have used it for 2 x 5 min journeys since and it’s gone again.

    we have an active air flap issue which was due to go in for replacement on 28th March but think they’re going to have to look at it sooner now - I wonder if that is causing the 12v to drain quicker.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Has the 12V battery been replaced? The 12V chemistry does not like a full discharge and normally would need replacing. We also have the flap problem, waiting for replacement part, but , touch wood, our 12V battery seems fine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭DaveByDavid


    No, wasn’t replaced.

    the AA guy that looked at it in Feb said the battery was fine - he did a test or something.

    but yeah, maybe it just needs replacing at this point.

    I guess I’ll call tomorrow and see. This is now 3rd major-ish issue in 2 years now.

    I guess a 12v doesn’t seem major but having it go 3 times in just over a month is a bit of a joke really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    I would imagine the battery is covered under warranty. There is always margin for error with things so it could just be a case of a battery that is poorer quality than usual.

    If the 12v battery powers the flaps then it could be that the car is repeatedly trying to change the flap state and then draining the battery doing so.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    I have a Bluetooth battery monitor to keep tabs on the battery health.

    I also had the flap issue, looking at the battery history it looks like the car tries multiple times to close the flap after the ignition is turned off and this is causing a drain on the battery.

    My wife was away a couple of weekends ago and she left the car parked for the weekend with the traction battery below 20% in which means the 12 volt doesn't get topped up. She ended up with a dead 12 volt and had to get breakdown assist.

    We got the vent actuator replaced this week and all seems to be good, the car seems to be maintaining the 12v ok.

    Bluetooth battery monitors are very useful if you are worried about battery health, about 30euro on Amazon.



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