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March 8th - What’s your vote? **Mod Note In Post #677**

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    #842
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,187 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121867251#Comment_121867251

    You must be so proud! Imagine a 22 year old going out to vote!



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    #843
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,187 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121867673#Comment_121867673

    Yes,home and hosed!



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    #844
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,187 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121867218#Comment_121867218

    I can almost see the MAGA cap, the grey beard and the pot belly!



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    #845
    Ozymandius2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121865365#Comment_121865365

    If I were an American I would probably be considered a moderate Democrat. However by Irish standards I think we are already a liberal society and what the government is trying to do is setting different freedoms against each other, particularly to the potential detriment of women who may not want to work outside the home due motherhood and not having a partner or people to help her with childcare. This creates a dilemma for moderate liberals.

    Also, I have no idea what a "durable relationship" is, and don't trust our judiciary to decide. We have some ridiculous rulings from certain judges.

    I voted yes to divorce in 2017 (liberalisation of divorce laws), the abortion referendum and the same sex marriage referendum. Those were better defined than this. I don't remember whether I voted yes or no to the Children's Referendum, but the issues going on with TUSLA which were raised by Peadar Toibin TD and others may have vindicated my caution.

    I also think the Electoral Commission was fairly balanced in this referendum.



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    #846
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users Posts: 12,326 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Voting NO for both

    ..

    https://twitter.com/LFJIreland/status/1766151456946577553?t=E94dJtCFd2OCA0RQ03IwEg&s=19




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    #847
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Voting NO for both

    A durable relationship with FFG is something I won't strive for anymore.



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    #848
    mrslancaster
    Registered Users Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868534#Comment_121868534


    Is this a first for a party leader - canvassing outside a polling station? A FG spokesperson said no breach of the electoral rules happened because LV didn't obstruct or induce any electors in the vicinity of the polling station. Fair enough he didn't obstruct or impede anyone, but he must have been 'in the vicinity' because the big yellow sign on the school railings behind him clearly says Polling Station. Also he did try to induce people into voting yes by posting that video.


    147.—(1) A person shall not interfere with or obstruct or impede an elector going to or coming from or in the vicinity of or in a polling station.

    (2) During the period commencing 30 minutes before the time appointed for the taking of a poll at an election, including a poll which has been adjourned under section 107 , and ending 30 minutes after the close of the said poll, a person shall not, in or in the curtilage of a polling station or in any place within 100 metres of such station, for the purpose of promoting the interest of a political party or furthering the candidature of a candidate or candidates or soliciting votes for a candidate or candidates or for any contrary purpose, do any or all of the following things:

    (a) loiter or congregate with other persons;

    (b) attempt to induce, by any means whatsoever, an elector to vote for a candidate or candidates or vote in a particular way or refrain from voting;

    (c) display or distribute any notice, sign or poster (other than a notice, sign or poster displayed by the returning officer) or card, circular or other document relating to the election; or

    (d) use or cause to be used any loud-speaker or other public address mechanism to broadcast matter relating to the election.

    (3) For the purpose of this section, a polling station shall be deemed to include all parts of the building and any land within the curtilage of the building in which the polling station is situate and the distance referred to in subsection (2) shall be measured from any entrance to the polling station or to the curtilage thereof.

    (4) A person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2) shall be guilty of an offence



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    #849
    Hawkeye123
    Registered Users Posts: 333 ✭✭Hawkeye123


    Voting NO for both

    Any word on the exit polls?



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    #850
    kowloonkev
    Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868534#Comment_121868534

    Who would one make a complaint to regarding this? Gardai?



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    #851
    DaSchmo
    Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭DaSchmo


    Voting NO for both

    This result and the reaction to it by political parties and the media is going to be so interesting if there's one or more "no's". Privately I'd imagine FF and FG will be furious with Roddy O'G who regardless of the result has made a complete dog's dinner of it (that and literally everything else in his portfolio come to think of it) and has also been almost invisible during the campaign with the exception of one very weak performance debating on Radio 1 half an hour prior to the media blackout.



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    #852
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 32,775 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868749#Comment_121868749

    There aren't any.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1766193486204670206?t=bcQenBW6eQh5rbbhx6x9Lw&s=19




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    #853
    riddles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭riddles


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868534#Comment_121868534

    Leo is channeling his inner Enoch Burke here!



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    #854
    downtheroad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,035 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868534#Comment_121868534

    He really needs to go. FG would do well to replace him with a new leader before the next GE.



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    #855
    tom23
    Registered Users Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭tom23


    Voting NO for both

    He really doesn’t give a ****. Shure why would he? he is like a bold child constantly testing the rules. gets away with murder.



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    #856
    pgj2015
    Registered Users Posts: 9,263 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I Voted No for both.



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    #857
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Voting NO for both

    Indo reporting an estimated 25% turnout nationally



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    #858
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121863752#Comment_121863752

    No. There often isn't.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #859
    tom23
    Registered Users Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭tom23


    Voting NO for both

    That has to be the lowest in a long time if not all time?



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    #860
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,408 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868749#Comment_121868749

    Didn’t have any- I guarantee you if the establishment narrative was going to be voted for we’d have exit polls



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    #861
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Voting NO for both

    Thing is they’ll come out and say it’s the far right, Russian bots or some sh1te that cause no/no if it is no/no. But it’s not, it’s that they did it half arsed, it wasn’t clear and they just treat the electorate with absolute disdain. Someone recently said to me ‘I’m not far right, but I’m not fair wrong’ it’s stuck with me. Because when I look at everything this shower are doing and making a balls it and then crying ‘far right’ as an excuse it’s bullsh1t.



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    #862
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121865365#Comment_121865365

    I don't think a No Vote On the care referendum can be fully written as conservative Ireland at all. Many many people voted no on the care referendum for human rights and Liberal reasons.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #863
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,860 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868769#Comment_121868769

    Which is strange in itself IMO. Either no one in the media/Government cares, or they're afraid of the answers.



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    #864
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,860 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868756#Comment_121868756

    Probably, but ultimately pointless unfortunately.

    As I said in the Government thread last night, rules and accountability are only for the "peasants" and others in our leaders minds.



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    #865
    redunited
    Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭redunited


    Voting NO for both

    So we have high turn out in selected areas reported after RTE spent all day reporting low turn out.

    No exit polls.

    No tally people.

    Very little TV coverage with RTE showing 10.30 to 11.30 only.



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    #866
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,860 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Voting NO for both

    Ultimately there should also be a minimum (but high bar) level for turnouts/participation in referendums and elections.

    If indeed the overall turnout is expected to be 40% (as reported by the IT this morning) then that should automatically require a rerun or failure of the amendment.

    Only if a clear national majority have voted for something should it be passed.



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    #867
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,408 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both

    Anything I’m seeing on Twitter is indicating a very strong No No trend already. These kind of yes no referendums you get a feel of the results very quickly.



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    #868
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,408 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both

    Looking like a very strong No No- so proud of everyone that campaigned and voted no- despite the avalanche of establishment bias and caricatures. The fallout is going to be delicious



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    #869
    redunited
    Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭redunited


    Voting NO for both

    https://twitter.com/eric_nelligan/status/1766395847628263735?t=lZrnNOhMXqyEdlorcov81Q&s=19



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    #870
    Augme
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Augme


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869000#Comment_121869000

    Yea, afraid of the answers which they are going to get 12 hours later anyway....



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    #871
    Augme
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Augme


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869019#Comment_121869019

    I don't think encouraging people not to vote is a good idea tbh. If people are too lazy to vote they need to accept there are going to be consequences to that.



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