Referendum on Gender Equality (THREADBANS IN OP)

what a load of disrespectful horse shite - the government put an unwanted, poorly thought out wording to the sovereign irish people who have voted with a resounding no.

it's time to respect the vote of the people and not label irish voters with misused trite terms such as misogny

Voted no because it was ill thought out. If the government is going to run a campaign to change the constitution, they need to be clear about what law they want to pass that they currently can’t, how the updated wording resolves this and how it won’t be exploitable.

The government had none of this - they spent millions of public money on a campaign that they ran on feelings instead of facts. A no vote doesn’t mean we’re backward conservatives(as a nation we’re clearly not), but we’re not trained seals who’ll clap at the government the moment they suggest something remotely progressive. They wasted millions of public money on this and a clear message they need to do better isn’t a bad thing.

I think you may be confused. Voters can vote however they wish. My 'views ' or anyone's views are not defined by one referendum on two minor articles in the constitution.

its nothing to do with being a deeply conservative country!!!!

the government mishandled the entire referendum

they are doing an equal poor job on housing and many other issues

What I gather from the previous page is that the best way to illustrate one's desire for a fair, equal society was to vote to ensure women remain having duties in the home. On a brighter note, there's the ability for those perpetually fearful types to 'drink tears' of strangers on anti-social media. I suspect the latter point is what this was really about, certainly for most on here.

if the wording of the referendum was properly thought out, adequately defined and not rushed through there would be minimal need to use the courts to fix any aftermath mess

The only side being hoodwinked were the yes voters. Specifically in the care referendum. The government positioned it as a vote on "women's place in the home", whilst simultaneously replacing it with text that would potentially erode supports in the state. They used the progressive wolf whistle to try and get this through and were found out.

There was no misunderstanding there. If anything the yes voters didn't understand what they were voting for and were voting on idealogical grounds.

Ivana Bacik blaming the government of course. At what point will she respect the votes of those inferior to her?

How could that poster think Ireland is a conservative country after voting for same sex marriage and abortion in recent years.

This was just a shocking effort by government, who produced very poorly worded proposed changed to the constitution, and then made a shocking effort in delivering their campaign.

Thankfully it looks as though the country has seen through the nonsense.

It will be a clear NO,NO but with significant variations across the country.

The areas of highest No ( urban working class) will be very difficult for all the parties in June, bar Aontú who don’t seem equipped to capitalise on the opportunity.

The areas of highest Yes (some might even have majority Yes) will be middle-class and highly educated. I think many Yes voters, especially Opposition party supporters, will feel duped when they appreciate the reasons for a No vote. A minority of Yes voters will stick with the parties’ excuses - “people were confused, social media, far-right, poor communication, not perfect but better….”

These results are proof, if such were needed, that higher education promotes group think rather than critical thinking.

The "Yes" side having an absolute MARE over the last couple of pages, top notch stuff.🤣

Mary Lou McDonald promised a rerun in the event of a No vote.

That's something positive at least.

Of course people were confused.

The first confusion was as to whether there was any need for the referendums, and the government didn't manage to clear up that confusion.

Then there was the confusion engendered by wording the changes in such a way that they appeared to be a movable feast, alternately a dog's dinner, in legal terms. If you want people to understand, you write in clear language - this was not done, and probably intentionally so.

Then there was the very late information that we were lied to about the AG's opinions. Somebody needs to resign over this, but as we have seen over and over again in recent years, our politicians don't feel obliged to resign on making a complete fúkkup.

Before voting, people are & were entitled to be informed in clear language as to what they were being asked to vote for. This wasn't done so most took the simple route and didn't vote. The majority of those who voted said NO. No confusion there at all. For me, the clear message is: don't ask the electorate to vote for a dog's dinner.

What an absolute embarrassment for the Government. I think they might do some quiet reflection on the genius idea to hold it on International Women's Day expecting it to walk through.

Because she is Mary Lou, 2 answers for every question