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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,271 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Tubbercurry Trail is on the map.

    https://www.parkrun.ie/tubbercurrytrail/



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭diceyreilly


    Picked up an injury to my big toe on Wednesday. Rules me out of running tomorrow.

    Going to volunteer as parkwalker instead. Not even too sure what the role entails but will give it a rattle anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭Duzzie


    Basically chat to the other walkers around you, if they want to chat. Try to encourage everyone, especially slower walkers and first timers. A little encouragement goes a long way to motivate people. Most importantly, show everyone that you are enjoying walking with them and that they are welcome at parkrun. Fair play to you for helping out, enjoy it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    This morning at parkrun my barcode time on the results webpage was about one minute faster than the time I recorded on my watch. And I was listed as finishing three seconds, and one place, behind a friend of mine. But in reality I was about one minute behind her and also there was another person in between us. I'm just curious to know how this happened. Anyone know?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭Duzzie


    parkrun results are a manual process where lots of things can go wrong. The time keepers may have miss-pressed, the finish tokens may have had a few in the wrong order or be missing, someone may have ducked out of the funnel after being timed, someone may have crossed the finish line twice. There are so many things that could cause the results to go awry in a manual system. If you are concerned about your time, a polite message to the event team explaining the issue, preferably with a Garmin time etc., and an offer to volunteer in future may persuade them to correct your time. But it is important to remember that all of the timekeepers etc are volunteers, mistakes happen and there is no guarantee of getting a time or of the accuracy of that time .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Thanks for the comprehensive reply 😊

    I'm not annoyed or anything like that, or looking to blame anyone, I was just curious is all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Reg'stoy


    Normally two timekeepers, who occasionally check in with each other and whoever is handing out the tokens, that "next token is 59" timekeepers should be showing 58 and token confirms 59. In a bunch finish, one finisher extra or less may have been recorded, finisher number should always be one less than the next token, so one timekeeper may add a finisher even though no one crossed the line to keep everything in sync. If a finisher doesn't want a token (you get them) their token should be dropped on the ground. Only one timekeepers results are used, so maybe you got a token that should have been dropped or there may have been an extra finisher needed by one timekeeper to keep sync'ed and that was you 'place'.


    I've done timekeeper by myself and in a bunch finish, touching your phone screen 7 or 8 times very quickly can mean errors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Can also click the volume buttons for clicking finishers. Especially handy if it's raining.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Reg'stoy


    Every day's a school day, did not know that, thanks.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,123 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Disable network, connect headphones, phone and hands in pockets, press volume button, listen for beeps, ignore any finishers crossing the line asking for their time, occasionally have a look at the screen in a quiet moment and confirm positions are in synch with the other timekeeper and finish tokens. :)



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    If it wasn't a pb I wouldn't bother the team with it but as above any number of things can happen. My lowest point as a timekeeper was missing the third place finisher. Thankfully there was a back up timer that day ☺️



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭py


    Anyone run Black Park parkrun near Slough? Trying to convince the family to go this weekend as we're over that way for a visit to Legoland. The others I have looked at nearby look like lap based parkruns. These are avoided when possible with the boys due to them not wanting to run more than one lap.



  • Registered Users Posts: 22 jakejudy123


    Here is a link to the third open letter sent today to parkrun regarding the removal of the statistics.

    https://www.change.org/p/reinstate-statistics-on-parkrun-for-all-participants/u/32424914



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,271 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Not seeing any massive drop in numbers and as I suspected would be the case, the 5K app is tracking those statistics. Here in Ireland at least, Parkrun is still doing fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,471 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    Because at the end of the day, the majority of people don't really care about the statistics. They don't really care what the course record is at their local parkrun. All they care about is their own stats. But I feel it is unfair to those who do hold course records, age grade records, first finishes etc. It might be important to them, they worked hard for them and to me the removal of them almost feels like parkrun is scolding them - it's not a race !!

    Ciara Mageen getting the female parkrun record at the end of last year was great for parkrun. It made so many headlines outside of parkrun circles. It surely would have been inspiring for other runners, particularly female teenager. I ran the same parkrun as Sonia O'Sullivan once and it felt great to be running the same event as a pure legend, someone I watched on tv growing up, and yet she was a parkrunner like all the rest of us, listening to the briefing, queuing to get her her barcode scanned.

    In terms of barriers to entry to parkrun - what I've noticed lately is that newbies to my local parkrun are friends / acquaintances of a participant. With parkrun wanting to increase numbers - perhaps people should be encouraged to bring someone along with them. And people are more likely to continue going to parkrun for the social aspect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Reg'stoy


    Totally agree, anecdotally anyone I have spoken to on the subject, and no one is really speaking about it anymore, didn't even know you could check the stats you can no longer check. We use the 5k and running achievements apps, purely for the challenges and knowing our NEADY parkruns, as we do a bit of tourism.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,123 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The test will be if this change manages to make any difference to the ratio of 40 minute plus participants as according to parkrun HQ that was the sole reason for the change, to encourage people at the opposite end of the field.


    It of course won't make the slightest difference as there is far more to getting people to take part than deleting some pages from a website, but HQ continue to fail to make any headway in reaching those people they claim to be trying to reach in any country outside of SA to any significant numbers. There are a handful of non SA locations which reach that audience, but HQ refuse to listen to how those events managed that.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Maybe I am a saddo but I spend about half an hour every Saturday looking at results of parkruns and various statistics 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Sandwell


    Re the Ciara Mageann thing, I'm not really sure that it does anything for Parkrun in terms of increasing participation. It might even have the opposite effect of scaring off potential participants who perceive themselves as slow. A world class athlete showing up to hammer a PR at a Parkrun seems a bit pointless to me, if anything. I think it's lovely to see elites showing up at and supporting their local Parkrun but making a big deal out of a professional athlete running a fast time at a Parkrun always struck me as a bit odd.



  • Registered Users Posts: 22 jakejudy123


    Yep me too. I'm 72, ex marathon runner. Now a slow parkrunner. Love the statistics, keeps me going trying to improve in my age group. It's all that keeps me connected to my beloved running



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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 jakejudy123


    The scary thing in my opinion is this statement from parkrun

    "l - "parkrun - you said in your recent staff email that "there is still so much more to do" and "we need to make changes that won't be universally popular" - what are they? Will the parkrun community get any say on them?" Hopefully a relevant questions to EVERYBODY in our community, whether they support the stats protest or not."


    Wonder what those changes are, timing, name change. Some don't care about stats but may be affected down the line



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,271 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    And you still get those in your emails. Someone once compared Parkruns to soccer kick abouts with mates. "You're there to have fun with your mates but you still want to know who won 2-1."



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,123 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    You don't get those stats in the results email, it just gives you a comparison to the track world record.

    What you can no longer see is the age grades run by other people at the same event you just ran at, or how you compare directly with others in your age category at your event. You can, with a minor bit of effort, compare to people who ran on the same day, but you can't see where you rank amongst other V70s over the years at the event.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,271 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    What's going on here I wonder? The wording is worrying that it's something "political" rather than course unavailability. They only moved to a new section of the Greenway in the past year.




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,123 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    That does read as if it's more than just a one week weather / volunteer availability issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,271 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    And they've listed the reason for cancellation as "Permission issue" on the Parkrun website. This doesn't make much sense. They've been on the go for 120 runs now. The Greenway is Mayo coco property, if there's a dispute on their new section, just revert to the old section.



  • Registered Users Posts: 22 jakejudy123


    Exactly. I'm in 70-74 grade and it was inspiring to see how fast others were doing the 5k and I would plan to do better. No reason to take that away from me and others



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Reg'stoy


    I'm not going to be disingenuous, but all that information is still available. The results page will show age groups, age graded percentages, so you can see how you compared on the day against any group you want. The 5K app will give you a break down of every age group record, for whatever parkrun you want to run in. Loads of stats for the geekest of geeks on both the 5K and running achievements apps.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,123 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The 5k app is unofficial and has the potential to get blocked at any point, not certain how they have got away with their scraping for so long, but for now HQ seem to be leaving them be.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,271 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Achill off again this weekend and I gather the local St Patricks parade in the area is postponed until Easter. Something odd going on out there.

    In brighter news, Tubbercurry Trail gets going this weekend.



  • Registered Users Posts: 419 ✭✭Mullinabreena


    180 at the first Tubbercurry parkrun today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭Duzzie


    A lovely course, mix of forest trails and open bog land. All on decent paths so trail runners not really needed. 180 probably too many for the course, particularly at the start, but numbers will settle over the next few weeks. Locals, walkers and first timers were well represented.The team coped very well though and were very welcoming. Good to see lots of marshals around the course . A great addition to the parkrun community.



  • Registered Users Posts: 419 ✭✭Mullinabreena


    Glad you enjoyed it Duzzie. I wasn't there myself but I use that trail regularly, it's a great facility to have in Tubbercurry. For a short trail its quite diverse. The numbers will ease off in the next few weeks.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,177 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Has anyone ran in Mountjoy prison? A friend was telling me about it, he's done it twice now. I applied last week, booked in for Feb 2025.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭CassieManson


    I've done it twice, it's a very interesting experience. No smart watches allowed though.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,177 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Ah for my times, I don't need a watch. I'm just happy to finish it.


    Heard a funny story before about one of the guys was talking to one of the runners. Where yee from, kildare. Me too. What part, Naas. Me too. What estate, no way me too.


    Did a search of the guy on the way home, sure enough, he was there. Rented gaff, so he won't be returning when released.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Reg'stoy


    Car pool if at all possible, parking is limited. No watch, phone and car keys will be taken off you. Plan to be there for a couple of hours, as you'll have a coffee afterwards and a tour of one of the cells. Really interesting experience, for anyone else thinking of doing it, you need to have a good few parkruns under your belt.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Real Eye opener. You get to chat with some of the inmates and run against them. 7 lap course but they have a clock going so easy enough to keep track. I must put my name down for it again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭Duzzie


    Another trip to a gorgeous parkrun location this morning. Visited Narin Beach parkrun in Co. Donegal. They usually have low numbers but seem to get a boost from bank holiday visitors. Well worth a visit if you are up in that part of the country and their event team is very friendly. One word of caution, it is a tough, slow course due to the soft sand, especially when the tide is in, so don't be expecting fast times. There is also lots of fantastic scenery in the area for a bit of sight seeing afterwards. I'd recommend Narin Beach parkrun to anyone.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,550 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    The 500 barrier was broken by a Malahide regular today. Congrats to her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭thesimpsons


    I was having issues last year and I wrote to the app people (think there was a link on the app) and reported it. They were very responsive and came back and fixed the issue with a patch. No problems since



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    Done my first ever parkrun this morning, am over the moon.

    After taking up running in 2021, things were going great for about 12 months when I started getting pains in my heels. Like a fool I kept running until it go so bad even on days off - trip to the physio and diagnosed with plantar fasciitis in both my feet. It took over 18 months to sort out and I left it another 6 months before going back running (jogging really). Have been back running for about 6 weeks now and after registering for Parkrun back in 2021 - I eventually got to take part.
    Must say, was nervous, but super friendly organisers and a tough test. Can’t wait for my next one.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,408 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,402 ✭✭✭ger664


    The fact that person also is in the 250 Volunteer club makes 500 more impressive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭opus


    It's the 100th event for Tramore Valley parkrun in Cork next Sat, that's taken a while especially for an event that started in Sept 2015 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Will the weather warning mean many getting cancelled I wonder, there seems to be a few gone already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,271 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    The orange counties more so than the yellows although both south Tipperary runs are off. You'd want to be a hardy soul to want to go out in that anyway.

    Interestingly Inch Beach say they'll go ahead unless Met Eireann declare a red alert.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    They're falling like skittles at the moment.

    For any parkrun in an orange warning zone it's probably best to check their website before travelling in the morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭opus


    Almost all the parkruns in Cork have cancelled at this stage, I'd expect the last two to do the same.



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