Referendum on Gender Equality (THREADBANS IN OP)

Some may have been confused as really it was difficult to grasp the point of the amendment - but most of those simply didn't turn up to vote.

I think most people had a good understanding of why they rejected these amendments and it was because they were badly drafted and they offered nothing new to their rights.

Well as with many events theses days there "maybe" an ideological connection?

A theory from another forum suggests that woman & mother had to be removed from the constitution so as not to offend the ... and I quote "the alphabet people", who I guess are the people involved & behind trans ideology and the WPATH files?

Anybody like to clarify if this theory is total garbage, or real?

Have to agree ..

However having mother in the constitution has not done us mothers much over the last 90odd years, has it though?

Don't reckon Universal child benefit really cuts it when your pension is docked and no recognition for the majority of women that put their careers on hold or on the back burner because they can't afford childcare for more than one ...

Fathers too but more falls on mothers.

They weren't confused through failure to understand though: it was the referendum itself whose aim was ambiguous and confusing, and which proposed ambiguous and confusing wording. The sensible response therefore was to reject it.

The dishonesty comes from the Yes side trying to blame the electorate as though the voters failed to understand something that was in fact comprehensible, if they'd just been "better" or cleverer citizens.

It reminds me of a documentary I saw about a family escaping from North Korea: they took their 80 year old grandmother rather than leave her behind, but it was too late for her to change her mindset. She would say things like "If we were poor in NK it's only because the people were not worthy of our great leader, we needed to work harder, we failed him". That's what the Irish "elite", media and government, think of the people. Sadly for them though, the people don't all swallow that.

Michael Martin has been a thundering disgrace since the formation of this government. The sooner him and vardkar are voted out of irish politics the better. FF should really have got rid of Martin back in 2011 instead the voted him leader yet he was involved in the governments that destroyed the country.

As for Lisa Chambers I see her as the Regina Doherty of FF. Another leech, loses her seat, gets given one in the Seanad and now running for Europe. Always seen standing with Martin, that's why I was surprised to hear her say she voted No. You never know with FF or FG politicians she could be lying

This annoys me no end. You can't support something if you didn't agree with it. They have been caught with their knickers down. I wonder will they now oppose the hurty words Bill and become a proper opposition instead of trying to appeal to FF as a partner in government.

I love this North Korean style attitude to democracy: worked out well on Saturday for SF and the proposals they put forward and campaigned for

North Korean , to funny.

Another 20 odd million to be spent in June. Yey!

What's even funnier is that the part time champagne socialists arts degree types have such a bruised ego since having their arses comprehensively handed to them by those horrible "ordinary folks" with their pesky votes lol.

Like I say, watch this space, more to come.

According to my Morse Code machine 4 dots stands for letter “H”

Once it's active there will be pressure from government to enforce it which means even less focus on actual crime that's already out of control in this country.

Nevermind the ham fisted wording associated with it, the circular definition of hate and how it is open to any interpretation whatsoever by whomever may be running the country in the future and you have a recipe for disaster. But hey at least Ireland inc gets progressive brownie points again because that's what really matters.

We need to be concerning ourselves with creating a society which is equitable for all, not a society in which peoples feelings are catered for but their needs are completely ignored and underfunded and under serviced.

Liberal Ireland is all fur coat and no knickers, we talk a good game about rights etc yet we have a complete pervasive inequality in our society where increasingly (especially going into the future) people are unable to house themselves and the left wing "opposition" are focused on culture war issues instead of fighting for the working man or woman.

Hate speech, these referendums and whatever else these spoofers roll out are just there to distract the Irish people from the economic hell scape they're living in and people like you are acting as cheerleaders for it.

You wouldn't like my opinion so I deleted it.

That's alright, I was just curious to see if there was any truth in their theory as I relayed in #3227 And as I also said, it may be total garbage, would like insight, if there is any?

The current government won't be re-running it, and very unlikely the next one will either if it is FF/FG in some form...