Kilkenny GAA Thread

Shine looked slow out there. Doesnt look fit either

Ref Shine - that’s a bloody hard role to play - especially as a young lad - and I do think that is important and good management to rotate a lad in that role out the field for a few minutes to get an opportunity to get into the game as staying sharp and patient is really important

Well said. The lad is trying to come back after numerous setbacks and recent surgery. He might never make it at senior but let's hope he does and wish him the best. Gearoid Dunne is in a similar situation, he too had recent surgery. For a young lad he played very well in our SENIOR club championship with Tullaroan. Fingers crossed for both, we do need them all.

It was a poor game. Unfortunately it leaves us with more questions than answers.

Both half backs, particularly Blanchfield got roasted.

Mikey Carey struggled, particularly in the first half. I know lots of our lads were guilty of it but he fumbled a lot of ball unchallenged.

Our delivery remains poor. I'm disappointed we seem to have regressed from last year in this regard when we were showing some progress. Lots more aimless ball to congested areas today.

Our hand passing was very poor. Loopy passes that take forever to come back down.. recipient always gets swallowed up. We need to either get better at hand passing, or just throw it like the limerick lads and accept a couple will be blown.

On that, somehow Owens blew TJ for a throw after he was manhandled to the ground late on. I don't know if TJ threw it, because he has his back to the camera, but neither did Owens - was impossible for him to see based on his positioning.

Special word of mention for the referee by the way. Absolutely baffling interpretation of the rules. No consistent application ... For both teams. A pathetic refereeing performance. Both teams can feel equally aggrieved. He seemed to have made his mind up before the game that no matter what was inflicted on TJ, he wasn't going to give a free...

We seemed miles behind. It was a miracle we were still in the hunt at the end to be honest... We had a lot more championship starters than Clare did too.

Anyway, we rarely win in Ennis. Hopefully we can beat Waterford and get another crack at Limerick...

Very honest post.

And your most recent one.

i haven't forgotten about ye lads dont worry , the current league is very hard to get excited about ,next year will be much better , when kilkenny hunt in packs they really hurt our middle 3rd , they didnt start to move in 6s and 7s across the two 65s until the game was nearly over which will highlight just how far they are away from full tilt at this time of year

Not sure we’re allowed pick anyone from Wexford.

Spot on with everything you said except for Limerick throwing the ball, that was unacceptable the other night and is not part of our game. On a happier note our minors bet Cork yesterday by about eight points which was a great turnaround from three weeks ago, the U20’s were bet by Limerick.

Are Galway out of contention?

Even with leaving the result aside, we rarely win in Ennis, it was another disappointing performance yesterday. Once Cody and Mullen had an off day it shows how limited our forwards were, TJ a side who looked very sharp on his return but we can't be relying on a 36/37 year old to get us out of trouble, the younger lads have to be stepping up and taking some of the pressure of him. I thought the decision to play Kenny as a fairly orthodox corner forward was strange, I think he has been good at midfield in the first few games so not sure what the logic of moving him out of there was. I'd have no problem with him playing corner forward and letting him roam out around the middle. Midfield struggled again especially in the first half, Carey was very poor in the first half and fumbled and mis-controlled a lot of ball, he still looks rusty after his year out, things did slightly improve with him going back to half back and Deegan going midfield. A few years ago we had a massive problem at full back until Huw came in nailed down the number 3 jersey, now it looks like 6 has become the new problem position at the back with Richie Reid being very very poor there again yesterday. There really doesn't seem any obvious player to go in and play 6 which is the most worrying part, oh what we wouldn't give to have a young Brian Hogan or John Tennyson coming through! I haven't seen much of Padraig Moylan but would he be an option? I know he's young but he did a decent job with the U20's there.

On Harry Shine, I felt bad for him yesterday been thrown in at the deep end against a very good team like Clare with very little hurling under his belt. Since his operation after the Boro's championship exit, he got 40 minutes against Wexford, wasn't even on the bench for the next 2 games and then thrown in again yesterday. If they think he's the one who could make a forward spot his own they should have played him in every game to get as much experience and hurling into him, he looked like a fella yesterday who had not hurled in a long time and needs games to get him match fit.

We don’t need to pick anyone from Wexford

what we need is for someone to train us like Wexford are trained

there hurling yesterday was super there scoring Fantastic

they playing to a system everyone knows how To play to it

its the stupid attitude like the tanks comment has kilKenny Hurling where it is

its not often you could say it but we could learn from them

we can’t even come up with puck out strategy

and we keep making the same mistakes

Ok here goes for the craic.. Considering I'm the reason it's all gone south since 2015...

As trip to Clare goes we done well

Glad you're finally happy. Everyone else is not particularly. Even Lyng was pissed off after.

see criticism of young players kilkenny always struggled in Clare 

A generalisation that's been thrown around in every podcast - we hardly ever go there. We kinda struggle everywhere now anyways.

if the senior players around young players are not preforming how you expect the young players to preform 

True but what 'young players' are you saying struggled because of that?

see some people very hard on blanchfield very hard for half backs to play well when your centre back not able to hold middle 

My problem with Blanchfield is that he couldn't compete properly in the air with Duggan, and if that detail isn't fixed then we're gonna end up in even more bother.

Rich Reid never good enough to play centre back for kilkenny

True Limerick walked all over him 2 years ago, and true he had a bad game against Wexford last year from a distribution point of view but he is the best sweeper we have, if we want to play that way. Otherwise you need to find someone who will read the play and distribute as well as he does. I don't think he's a traditional centre back and it's been proven he can be got at - but not good enough at all is not correct.

lyng needs to start standing up to the plate 

That's him told then.

corcaran has showing he to slow for midfield 

Grand so. At least they tried something. Hindsight is wonderful. He got ran by the Clare wing forward for one point. After that I'm not sure where his pace factored into things.

we had Kenny and carey doing ok they should be giving as many matches to build a partnership 

In my opinion Carey's hurling was off in both this and the Cork game - I didn't think he did well in midfield and he did looked more comfortable when he went back defending. This year to me he's a wing back or potentially CB.

Deegan had great year centre back then move into forwardS 

Deegan has struggled as an inter county wing back. He is not the answer. I like him and I think he needs to be accommodated but he's not a reliable defender. Moving him into the forwards and allowing him come back to help out makes sense.

look at wexfords performance today

I'll look at Wexford in April and May to make my mind up on them. They are playing Chin every game they can which indicates they are going for a strong start. How will they be when everyone catches up to them? I don't rule out them pipping us into second place in Leinster. Maybe they just have some better players than us.

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The silence is deafening as usual. Ye should all hang your heads in shame.