Cold Case Review of Sophie Tuscan du Plantier murder to proceed. **Threadbans in OP**

What the poster actually said: "there are more viable suspects than Bailey"

Did bjsc ever surmise that the Bailey theory is likely to have occurred? I don't remember reading anything to that effect.

How that, in your opinion, leaves Bailey as the likely murderer makes zero sense.

There are many cases in the crime annals where serious violence has been inflicted on the victim, without any long or real knowledge of them, so there is no basis to make that as a statement of fact.

So you're citing the poster as an expert when it suits you e.g. "the stranger killer and the hired hitman theories are not likely to have occurred."

But when they state there are more viable suspects you disregard that because ... reasons... because it contradicts the opinion you have of Bailey regardless.

That is an entirely self-contradictory argument.

It is stated here:

What I have said is that, given the known facts, there are more viable suspects than Bailey. Particularly if you allow for the possibility of a morning killing.

I don't see how that can be spun as leaving Bailey as the most likely suspect. More viable suspects e.g. Person or Person(s) unknown are therefore most likely.

Alfie is dead, as are several others involved in the case. And in many if not most such discussions, it has been presented not as a I think Alfie did it but here is how easy it is to make a case against someone with circumstantial evidence.

That's a long way away from what you originally said, so you are disagreeing with yourself, or were not clear enough. You've already edited your post and changed the meaning of the post I replied to. I'll leave you to continue arguing with yourself.

I wouldn't be naming names either, including of people deceased. Bailey's name has been out in the open for years, and mostly people are discussing facts about him. He was a self confessed prime suspect, so its reasonable to discuss his guilt or otherwise and there's plenty of facts to discuss, both in his favour and against.

Regards other suspects, bjsc mentioned establishing a routine for Sophie. Its also possible the murderer had a routine. Without naming names for legal reasons, you'd wonder if someone was in that area frequently for one reason or another at the time of the murder, which could well have been at morning time.

Forensically it was impossible to establish a time of death, so its been left to circumstantial evidence to establish one and bjsc has made a very good argument for a morning death, possibly anytime between dawn and a few minutes before she was discovered.

You'd have to say the difference between a middle or the night death and a morning death is huge for the case.

I'm assuming that bjsc was referring to a land or other neighbour dispute when she referred to other suspects

Im possibly wrong on that . Happy to be corrected if so

So what are the alternative suspect/ theories that odyssey says you've stated are more likely than Bailey?

Some theory without naming names

And the other thing about naming names is that if Ian Bailey wasn't the killer then the real murderer or members of their family are still out there and they, potentially, have a lot to lose. I have made no secret of my identity and have no wish to put myself at risk.

I think it is stronger than that. If the murder happened in the morning, at the gate, in an unplanned assault it would be highly unlikely that Ian Bailey had anything to do with it.

It is completely contrary to the Garda narrative against Bailey which despite twenty seven years of trying has not even met the threshold for a viable prosecution.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I'd suggest the truth to the murder therefore more likely lies with someone other than Ian Bailey.

Let's be crystal clear on something. It is not "odyssey says". You are inexplicably ignoring this post where it is literally stated by the actual poster, and I have in fact in an earlier reply to you today included a link to the actual post. And still in this post you seem to feign ignorance of its origins? Come off it.

Post #5773 10-03-2024 8:37pm

given the known facts, there are more viable suspects than Bailey. Particularly if you allow for the possibility of a morning killing.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121876629#Comment_121876629

You completely misrepresented it as if it was something I said, when it was literally stated in the post I directly quoted. Are you denying the poster said it in the post I quoted? Simple question.

And then said they won't name names.

But I don't see any post where they state they do not have "alternative suspects in mind" ? This is your own interpretation, but not something I can see stated on the thread anywhere.

Not sure why you have to dress up your arguments by putting words in other poster's mouths.

She hasn't clarified that at all today

All it would take is some further explanation -no names

It merely appears she is stating above that the murderer may be someone other than bailey

I just had a quick google of the case . I didn’t know she was only 39