Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

Think a lot of credit for that can go to kinnerk not Davy to be honest.

That’s just GPS. No big deal in fairness

A disheartening day to say the least.

Davy is clearly bleeding us dry. Eoin Kelly is never seen at games. What the hell is his role? Is there any other Liam McCarthy county without a prominent hurling coach? Most have more than 1 but we have our manager doing the coaching it would seem.

Ken is in his first year as U20 boss. He’ll need time to grow into the role. This year may not go well even as I believe they have a young panel as well as factoring in Cummins and O’Sullivan opting out, Seánie Callaghans injury and Fitzgerald being somewhat limited by his senior panel involvement, it’s hard to see where scores will come from for that group.

Joxer is in his second year as minor manager and last year didn’t go too well. From what I’ve heard hopes are higher for next year than this and it’s a young panel for this year. He would probably be better placed to step up given his experiences at club level but I think he’ll be anxious to get the third year with the minors.

If Darragh could be convinced to get involved he would be the obvious candidate. But how much of Ballygunners success is down to an astute hurling coach in Franks as well as the culture there? Very hard to say. If he could take Franks from Wexford I think it would improve things significantly, we’ve really let a good one slip there.

Another option might be Duck O’Rourke currently coaching Cork but their style doesn’t seem a huge improvement on our own.

The saddest aspect of this is that if we get out of Munster this year we’ll be bled even more next year. People within the board, clubs, county and beyond work so hard to raise funds for our teams and improve facilities.. and then it gets pissed away on this lad with his team of stooges doing nothing.

I believe we have a trip to Portugal coming up now in the next few weeks. Another €50,000 or so well spent! How many injuries will be picked up on this waste of time of a training camp?

they were paul kinerrks tactics , and team , shane o'donnell wouldn't have started the replay if fitz had his way , he barely got a look in all year before it

Kinnerk was the force behind Clare.

All the improvements with Clare can be traced to him through Minor,Under 21 and Senior.

Kiely and Kinnerk supposedly differed on issues in 2017 but Kiely had the sense to work together with him for the good of Limerick.

Kinnerk has had a part to play in 6 of the last 11 Senior All Irelands. And before that had a role in 4 underage All Ireland finals in 5 winning 3.

Davy sidelined him after 2013 and the results speak for themselves.

One will be rightfully regarded as a major innovator in the years/decades ahead.

Not that hard to figure out.

great post 100% right , kinnerk was brought back 2016 and we beat waterford in the league final , but as you say look at clare in 2014 and 2015 without kinnerek

Is it a private benefactor who is funding this Portugal training camp and Davy's expenses along with his backroom team?

We have been told that expenditure on county teams is too high and has to be reigned in by the board.

Apparently other Waterford county teams both hurling and football have been told to cut back.

Why is Peter Queally never mentioned as a replacement in these threads the only man with a track record of improving clubs in Waterford the rest of the names on this board don’t really have a similar CV apart from maybe Darragh Sullivan.

He has a great club record but he got a crack with the County U21's before and didn't go great. Him being in the current background team won't do him any favours either

A lot of knee jerk reactions going on here. Status in the league isn’t important and nor will it be going forward under the current system. Where we were last year in the league vs this year is streets apart. I think we’ve come on since then. Anyone remember the draw vs Dublin, poor display vs Antrim, hammering vs Tipp games ffs. 

Get more game time into returning players this Saturday vs Kilkenny, the result doesn’t matter. Head off on warm weather training camp and we’ll know at 6pm on April 21st after the Cork game if the national league preparation mattered or not. Personally I think well beat Cork in WP. We’ll be a nice bet at 2/1 in the bookies. 

He has come up against a ballygunner 9 in a row winning team got beat by them with passage abbeyside and roanmore.

1 title is more success than some names mentioned before.

Are you still on Davy’s payroll ! Did you predict a Waterford win against Cork last year too ?

This time last year, most people were willing to give Davy the benefit of the doubt. Not so this year, apart from yourself.

Unfair on Mourinho that.

Not the soccer thread obviously but what he did with Porto in the face of a major change in top level was remarkable. Comparisons to Davy aren't justified for that alone.

I doubt the Tier 2 counties will come knocking for Davy at this stage and besides going to one of those counties will be even harder than it has been for his last 4.

He will only get more and more defensive and he can't deal with criticism at all. Not a good pairing.

He'll be forced out though at the end of the season one way or another. The backlash has been as severe as I can ever recall for a league game.

For all that it looks as if Waterfords chance of an All Ireland with this group has come and gone.

Without knowing the in and outs of it I reckon the time has come for root and branch reviews.

Other than Tipp they look to be way behind the other counties at Underage and they will struggle if they don't match up here.

Your having a laugh if you think he would improve this Waterford team. He plays the same tactics as Fitzgerald. About ten years ago he was manager of the Rower team up here in Kilkenny and they couldn't get rid of him quick enough due to his negative hurling. They played similar stuff to the muck Waterford are producing at present. Always though the present ballygunner manager comes across as a class individual, who speaks really well and has them playing to their strengths and not his system. Yere county board should be moving heaven and earth to get him.

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