Munster Team Talk Thread - New season title pending....

Are you saying that Healy could have played for Munster while being capped for Scotland and he wouldn't count as NIQ.

Lowe came in, got capped even with having issues to his defence to resolve, posters here are claiming Frisch can't get a look in because of his age and that he has defensive issues with his game.

I think it's very safe to assume that Healy would certainly not be allowed stay in Munster as a NIQ. But that wasn't even my point, my point, was even if he was allowed, he shouldn't be counted as a NIQ player as the IRFU didn't need him.

From a depth POV, Ireland have 1 fully fledged 13 who is currently injured so we're playing Henshaw at 13 when his preferred position is 12

Aki is an inside centre and so is McCloskey

In a matchday 23, or even a squad for a tournament like the RWC where you can't cover every position, the centres can cover each other, or even have 'utility backs' covering one or both centre positions, but Ireland have no dedicated cover for Ringrose at 13, and for this reason, Frisch should absolutely have been brought in as a like for like cover for GR when he became injured instead of shoehorning in Henshaw there just because he can do a job there if needed

In the 6 nations, there are no rules about squad sizes, so Farrell, for reasons known to himself as he always does, just hoped for the best and thought he can just move players around when injuries arise (Henshaw playing out of position last weekend might have been some explanation for why he didn't play particularly well, and we were exposed by England)

That's your opinion about 'talent' but here is more to it than that. Kendellen has been made the Munster captain on multiple occ

asions this season, he has an edge and a bite to him that has been identified as a valuable attribute that he brings to the table, even if he is not necessarily the biggest player on the pitch in his position, you need to balance out your back row and he does have some qualities that others do not have. Kendellan was just as outstanding at underage level as Quinn and Gleeson have been, and just like Kendellan, it will take a Quinn and Gleeson a few years for them to grow into Senior rugby and find their place on the team

Nankivell would take 4 more years. If Frisch plays for france, yes you need to choose between him and nankivell next year.

irish fans have some sort of delusion at lock. Beirne is the only guy who sniffs a south african 23 and prob at 6.

I feel like no on ever gets this point but the more to it is that 4 players isn't actually that deep and that 27 isn't that old. Guys have improved after that age especially when they have elite level physical talent which he does.

We lose out on all that possibility for the price of a cap and now france potentially gets it. Its wasteful.

100%

Scotland have no depth. They've a small pool to select from. The majority of the squad is foreign. Different aspect to Scotland than to Ireland. We have better resources.

Rather than eating your blue beret, why not promise to do something as crazy as FF did when he said Kleyn would never play for SA.

If Frisch doesn't get picked for France, then I'm coming out of retirement

Agreed, the cost of a cap is high outside of tours during Lions years. Giving a spot in the squad and capture cap against one of the few weaker nations means someone else doesn't get their opportunity, usually one of the up and coming players dying for it. For example, I doubt Casey or many posters here would be happy if he missed out playing for Ireland due to McGrath being dropped in to get another cap in case Canada decided to call him up.

Munster have been a huge net beneficiary with these qualified players who came in with one of the main draws being the potential to play for Ireland. Then there is the next level of support the IRFU has given in the likes of Jager where the IRFU and AF himself helped to get him over, and are apparently paying a portion of his salary.

There is always a risk that some of these players brought in wouldn't be deemed good enough for a cap but overall the approach has been a huge positive for Munster (and the other provinces but that belongs in other threads). Always a jump to see the negative it seems.

I mean exactly, france are cultivating depth below that.