Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Seems like locals in Tipperary want refugees...didn't the Irish travel the world?

Cloughjordan native Ruari McBride said that when he saw what was happening in Racket Hall, he wanted to come here and stand in solidarity with the anti-racism groups.

“Irish people moved all around the world over the years and other people have the right to do that too.”

People holiday in Turkey but this lad sought asylum here...

"Former asylum seeker, Hasret Dayan from Turkey, said: “I am a refugee, and I live in Cloughjordan for the last seven years. I have my own private place now and I am out of the main system, and I am waiting for my citizenship. I am almost there.

"I am a professional chef. I came here in 2016 and there were no protests then. I feel sorry and a little bit angry, when I arrived my community was so helpful. I felt really at home, and I have really nice friends."

I agree with this and posted a similar comment before.

The concept of a list of "safe countries" is backwards. Countries should be considered safe automatically unless there is a war there.

I would perhaps even go one step further and say that there should be a list of unsafe regions, not countries.

In regards to your previous point about why not just put them back on planes. Well, it's complicated because sometimes we don't know which planes they came off. This is indicative of a complete lack of monitoring flights arriving at the airport. It's beyond ridiculous that people can hide in toilets when they come off a plane, and then present to passport control hours later after many flights have come come and gone. Basic monitoring would resolve this. That how little will there is to resolve the problem.

I thought about unsafe regions, but I disagree. It would become extremely bureaucratic and require ongoing monitoring of every minor conflict in the world. Maybe it would work at an EU level.

But on further thought if there is an unsafe region in a country, surely your first thought would be to go to a safe region in your country? Where you share similar language/culture? Rather than hop on multiple flights to come to Ireland/UK/Europe? Likewise seeking a safe country, that should be based on proximity - Fleeing war in Mali, go to Senegal/Mauritania/Burkina Faso. Unless you're not seeking only a safe place, but better economic opportunities.

Fair point in that in would be difficult to classify minor conflicts in every region of the world. Perhaps in order to be considered "unsafe", most of a country should have directly experienced conflict. If there are vast areas of a country that are safe, then people should be expected to go there before coming here. In the same vein, if there are people that live in an unsafe country, but they were born or have strong family ties in a safe country, then this should also be considered when granting asylum e.g. if you hold a Ukrainian passport and you were born in Georgia, well then you should go to Georgia and not claim asylum in Ireland.

I agree - you should have to provide reasoning to claim asylum in that specific country, and reasoning for rejecting other closer/more logical avenues.

What an absolute mess, in more than one way. This Government is disgrace for allowing this to happen.

Its close, it is about 5 minutes from Merrion Square, the Grand Canal is at the end of the road and it is about a 5 minute walk from Grand Canal dock. Most folks would know the street as it is where the Passport office is.

Ah Leo now I understand… all these single male IPA are like our national saint? ya should of said sooner. Let’s get building houses quicker for them.

An unfortunate comparison you'd think, given that Patrick is credited with having converted the native people from their own beliefs to Christianity and that henceforth many Irish people came to be named Paddy or Patricia. .... follow the obvious line of thought.

This must be the new vision for Ireland and why it has to be stoutly resisted.

I think varadker is just trolling the nation. His feelings are hurt over the referendum.

Was st patrick not brought here as a slave? Odd comparison to make, given the skin colors of those in the tents.

Maybe he has let the cat out of the bag here about those people coming here. Maybe they are not coming here by choice.

Folksy stuff about St Patrick or the Irish going to America is not cutting it, its starting to sound preachy and it is no help in accommodating thousands of homeless people who should not have been encouraged to come to a country that already has thousands of people in temporary accommodation.

The fact is the country does not have the capacity to help more people. If it did there would be already people who are in the system but living on the streets.

Rolling out a European wide database to store scanned images of travel documentation that have to be presented at some point in the travel process before they can be destroyed would help. The information is stored and tagged with flight number, date / time etc. The database can be accessed by Immigration officials of all EU countries. So, when someone arrives claiming to have no documentation it should be relatively painless to ascertain on which flight they arrived from. Build a massive holding area in Dublin airport, fill it with camping beds for sleeping on. Anyone who arrives without the documentation that was originally scanned should be held and then eventually returned to the country of origin or their home country. I mean, we know where the majority are coming from. I'd probably be described as a woke leftie for my views but I'd have absolutely no problem about any or all of the above happening.