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What happened to the Democrats?- Honest Question

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,076 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    "Corporate Socialism" was an ironic nickname given to this sort of thing purely because enriching a tiny elite with public money is pretty much the opposite of actual socialism.

    Referring to that as being the same as actual socialism is either incredibly cynical or incredibly stupid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,261 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Democrats profit when they lose elections. The goal is to make money, not to actually do anything productive in government. That's true for both parties, but obviously the Republicans being their fundamentalism along too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,731 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    The big issue I see is that Biden should have run in 2016 but didn't because his son passed away. If he had run in 2016 he'd have beaten Trump. If Trump hadn't won in 2016 he'd have been a busted flush and would have faded away. Biden could possibly be coming to the end of his 2nd term now and a new generation of politicians might be coming to the fore.

    But instead, Biden went 4 heads too late, won't step aside and they are looking down the barrel of losing to Trump in November.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,292 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That's hardly Biden's fault though: American partisan politics are so warped there's a consistent cohort of voters who'll vote Trump regardless, no matter how obviously lunatic, authoritarian and angry he has become; when polls are showing a significant percentage of republicans think Taylor Swift is a CIA plant, Biden's age isn't gonna shift the needle when there's clearly something deeply wrong in the mindset or (under) education of the American voter.

    The stats do show Trump's failing to woo the wandering or independent voters, so I'm not convinced Trump V2 is as definitive as some worry over; now, Trump's reaction when he loses will be the bigger concern. Jan 6th might pale in comparison. But he's far more aggressive, embittered state seems to be pushing away voters, not enticing them



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,297 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    And on top of that he's changing the RNC organization now that he's handpicking people and changing it from putting people on the ground to drum up voters to instead supporting a big push for the election fraud claims he's made. Which is his ego boost but will harm them for actually getting votes in the election at a time when RNC has puilled in their lowest amount of fund raising in the first place focusing on something that will not win him votes (the people who believe it are already Trumpers anyway).



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  • Registered Users Posts: 889 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    The Clintons were the worst thing that ever happened to the democrats, made them a party of outsourcing and cow towing to wall street



  • Registered Users Posts: 889 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    AOC is unelectable due to her not being unconditionally pro Israel



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,648 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Ageist much?

    I don't recall the same level of complaint when that demented old fool Ronald Reagan was running.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,648 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Said it before but I'll say it again - the first thing Barack Obama should have done in 2009 was have the lobby of the Supreme Court polished.

    Instead he spent eight years watching increasingly decrepit judges hang on for grim death, then have his nominee for one vacancy opposed because a nomination with one year to the end of his term was "too late" - a policy the Republicans naturally reversed when it suited them.

    The orange buffoon has since packed the SC with his useful idiots, motivated by religion not law or justice - and they're young enough to be stinking the place out for possibly 50 years.

    Meanwhile southern states happily erase human rights (white males excepted). It's an utter disgrace.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,442 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The Democrats were always a small "c" conservative party with liberal and socialist wings whereas the Republicans have always been a conservative party with a minarchist wing. The latter have embraced theocratic fascism whereas the former hasn't really changed so far as I can tell.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,187 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    When I look at Biend's debate performance a few days ago I have to wonder how did it get to this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,127 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    to boil it down the media Gaslit Democrats and the Democarats Gaslit themselves , watching from the outside its been an hilarious car crash unfolding

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    The DNC colluded with the media to propel Donald Trump to the top of the Republican ticket thinking he'd be easy to beat, called his supporters deplorables, demonised and repelled Sanders' supporters, and then failed to beat Trump. Biden had to come in four years later and won based on not being Trump, and now four years later, that is still the plan except he's not himself anymore either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭human 19


    My impression is that they play softball whereas the GOP play hardball. The GOP will do what's needed to get into power while the Democrats are too… cautious? weak? . Listen to Bill Maher's Real Time podcast to get an idea of the frustration from a Democrat supporter who is totally frustrated with the weakness the party shows in how it approaches politics.

    The party as a whole doesn't call out and distance itself from it's small lunatic fringe who overindulge in extreme wokery and therefore loses a lot of middle America.

    Even after the last debate , the top dogs of the party lined up to back Biden without seemingly caring how he looked to the electorate at large,. They might claim that he will be fine for the next four months, but people would look at that performance and think how he would be in the next 4 years.

    The VP Harris is another example. Very unpopular , but they are sticking with her on the ticket. They are walking themselves into another Trump presidency. You would think that after the latest Supreme court ruling which basically states that Trump is allowed to do whatever he wants in an official capacity , that they would do their utmost to make sure he doesn't get in again , but their priority seem to be that they have to be nice to their chums in the party and not stab them in the back.



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