Deposit return scheme (recycling)

There is still alot of products not in scope in circulation. If they are only collecting 5m containers a week by June it would be a failure but its still only 6 weeks in.

You're supposed to stop them to robbing you by withdrawing your custom.

My return experiences, attempted twice, of bringing bags of 20+ cans (all of which had deposits paid, albeit some had no logo, and were purchased after 1st feb) showed over 75% being rejected for invalid barcode.

Therefore, my cans will continue to go in the green bin and I've switched to buying glass bottles for beer and 5Ls (instead of 2Ls) of water. Glass bottles that go in the black bin.

I assume you've checked the barcode checker on the re-turn website.

If so then yeah what's happening to you is completely wrong... Contact re-turn by email with the details of the work canteen and they should put a stop to it. Get your work colleagues to do similarly to speed it up

They probably won't take them if the re-turn logo isn't on the product

If you read this thread you will see I have been very vocal in my opposition to this scheme. How the hell am I blaming you??

Your canteen as well as making a profit already are now adding 15 cent to your purchase just because they can. Remove their new found profit and the profit they were making on your orange by bringing your own. That was my suggestion.

I wonder how much money has been lifted out of the publics pocket at this early stage on being charged deposits that cannot be gotten back.

Their teething issues should not be costing us money. Absolute scam.

Re-turn will hide behind the lag, thats for sure, but that road will also run out soon.

My thoughts are that 200m in-scope items have sold since Feb 1. 5m, we know from re-turn, have been returned.

• Absolutely, a large portion of the 200m items were old stock
• - albeit the ratio of these is probably less than 20% and falling - just 4 more days until wholesalers / producers can sell out of scope to retail.
• Certainly, some are currently sitting in bags or bins at home, until the next shop run when they can be RVM'ed.
• Yes, some are sitting in fridges and presses not yet consumed.
• BUT some have been put in green bins / waste bins just as they always have been

I personally think the majority of the 195m items unaccounted were put in green bins / waste bins as before. Remember, to succeed, Re-turn needs to wholly replace kerbside recycling, there is no other way to get to their raison d'etre - 90% target.

I suggest the early signs is that people are not doing what we expected them to do. If people were compliant, I think we would be seeing maybe 25% return ratio - certainly not 7.5%.

Your company only has an exemption from taking back the empties, like a small shop that doesn't have the room for a RVM. They don't have an exemption from charging the deposit, like pubs and restaurants do. They will still have to pay the deposit back to Re-turn (unless they are charging for non-returnable cans and bottles, which is wrong).

My work canteen is the same, where we're supposed to bring the empties home/to an RVM to get our deposit back. I haven't bought any yet though.

I haven't used this yet. But upon purchasing groceries in Dunnes yesterday, the lady on the checkout pointed out to me that my 1ltr fresh oj bottle was returnable. It never occurred to me tbh as I didn't notice the R sign and it turns out I have one already sitting in the fridge at home that has it too.

The label is unnoticeable. Why is it not holographic or at least instantly recognisable? A black little R under the barcode is all it is.. And I doubt many labels will last in and out of the fridge for long. The label on the current bottle is wrinkled, damp and I'd say will be torn by the time it's empty. Surely the plastic should be embossed rather than depending on a label?

They are legally not for profit, correct. This does not meant they are a charity, or that they are 'Not for benefit'. Any additional cash they have has to be dealt with by adjusting their future income. They can do this by a number of means (examples, not exhaustive):

• raising their spend (on say marketing)
• raising the retailer levy of 2.2c
• lowering the producer fee
• lowering the deposit
• selling the recyled material at a lower cost

Unlikely the shopper will benefit, it must be said.

Ireland has a history of not for profit organisations that are swimming in cash. Onsite gyms and daily yoga sessions. A small salary for the CEO who also gets benefits one could easily live on. Car allowance, expense account.

Can we get re-turn to fund public drinking fountains and bottle fillers in all towns and villages if they are cashing so much money in