Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

You must have forgotten the shinners wanted to do a deal with FF last time.

The crazy thing is that until a few months ago you may have been called racist for suggesting there was a link between a lack of housing/stretched services and immigration.

Sadly Ireland’s immigration policies have relied more on good intentions than common sense. The guys sleeping in tents around Dublin are among the victims of this childishness.

Well, we should certainly require visitor visas for many more non-EU countries than we currently do.

Some countries that we don't, and shouldn't IMO, require visitor visas from include: USA, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, the southern cone countries, Singapore, Malaysia (there are more). These places don't pose much of a problem at the moment at least.

A lot more African and central american countries should require a visitor visa than currently do.

Great to hear you're a fast typist.

You'll be able to explain in detail so how we control immigration within the CTA.

There's a lot of truth in what you say. In relation to immigration the Government opted for pieties over practicality, waited far too long to pivot. With the referendums they opted to have votes when there was very unlikely to be tangible benefits for anyone. They then introduced very dodgy alternative clauses, opted to have the voting on International Women's Day instead of with the elections in June, and were surprised to get a walloping.

The market for commonsense politics is quite large now and growing. I'd be worried about far right charlatans filling the void.

At the moment SF look increasingly like far left charlatans. They have more populism coming before the Oireachtas, they're seeking another eviction ban. That's a move that will definitely encourage smaller landlords to leave the market, will definitely make the market tighter and worse for tenants, but SF seem to have gambled that voters won't look past the superficial.

I agree in general MegamanBoo.

What we need is government schemes encouraging more young people to go into trades, starting off with properly paid apprenticeships, allowing online learning rather than the current phases where you could end up in Dublin for 3 months, then in Kerry for the rest of the year, and better supports for tradesmen taking on apprentices, as it takes the tradesman time to train the apprentice up, especially in the first year.

This should have been done in 2014 when the housing crisis was first becoming apparent, but clearly the government had other priorities. Schemes to encourage tradespeople from other countries, but especially inside the EU, to come to Ireland should be ran too.

I just can't see any example of a wealthy country in the modern world that has actually managed to control immigration.

Australia, for all the geographic factors which make it easier to physically control borders there, seems to now have a huge issue with visa overstays. Opposition parties there are campaigning that immigration is 'out of control'.

Denmark might have some success, but they're not publishing numbers. Previous attempts by individual EU states to go solo like this have only resulted in more immigration arriving at neighboring countries. That might sound attractive but if other countries start reacting, as seems to be the case, these impacts will just cancel each other out.

On the other hand, it's not that long since we were building 90k homes per year in this country. I've not read up on water supply issues but I'd imagine they could be worked around with rationing in the short-term. We are way behind where we need to be on infrastructure and housing but voting in anti-immigration campaigners to prop up another 5 years of FFG government will only leave us further behind.

The only people who have a problem with an eviction ban are landlords, many who want to let out their properties for higher rents and shorter lets .

A ban will not drive any increase in the housing market pressures , It is to stop evictions ..it will just prevent people being made honeless or having to go on social housing waiting lists .

Nobody except a landlord would object to this and it is something that other parties have called for as well , not just SF .

A lot of people will fall for the populism.

It is a ridiculous measure that would definitely see people leave the market. It would also be a significant disincentive to people think of investing in property, which will see fewer houses built.

Of course SF also know it's a stupid measure and won't pass anyway, but they've made a cynical calculation. It happens all the time in politics.

The only issue is that SF will be under pressure to follow through on something like this if they were to get in. There are thousands of accidental landlords around Ireland who are in positive equity, who know SF could be in Government within a year, and many of those are going to have left the market by that time in case we do have a populist government.

Water rations? That's definitely going to quell the anti illegal immigration sentiment.

Building enough houses is going to take months, even years. Meanwhile in Dublin...

Scabies outbreak, using the street as a toilet, rubbish and no doubt rats everywhere. Like seriously, something has to be done immediately to discourage people from coming. It's not fair on them or us. O'Gorman is turning the city centre into a literal sh1thole.

The lads on Mount Street should be moved on to set up their tents outside their countries embassy. Your citizens, your problem for now.

Do you think we should stop building around Dublin until enough water is available?

I think it's appalling the conditions people are having to live in now on the streets of Dublin. But other than build houses, and get in a government that are serious about building houses, I don't know what can be done.

You're talking about a deterrent being needed, what could be a bigger deterrent than sleeping in rat infested tents with a scabies outbreak?

WE ARE RIGHT AND WE WILL WIN.

More in their line to clean up the mess they made instead of annoying people with slogans like that.

The country is full so they need to stop coming before Dublin ends up with shanty towns all over the place.

The worse it looks to those on the outside, the better deterrent to the majority of fake applicants. Everyone out there on the streets knew they'd be arriving to tents since December, theoretically these tents are still better than living in a warzone.