Deposit return scheme (recycling)

@magic_murph any update on those binman subsidies?

And whose fault is that? It really is not a huge ask to return bottles in 99.99999% of all cases. There is no need whats-so-bloody-ever for Re-turn to keep any money from any deposits.

I keep the empties in a bag that I grab on the way to the weekly shopping. As I walk in I spend 2 minutes throwing them into the machine. At the end I put the coupons on the belt with my shopping and they are deducted from the total.

This is as easy as falling off a log, but I am sure a lot of people work *really, really* hard at making this difficult and complicated for themselves and others so they can claim this is unworkable and a failure.

Most ridiculous thing I've seen with this scheme so far is the WH Smith after security in terminal 1 in Dublin Airport charging the deposit. How many of those plastic bottles and cans are bought by visitors, so leave the country and are never returned... probably the majority. Surely the deposit shouldn't have to be paid if buying something in shops in the airport, where it is quite clear that it impossible to retrieve the deposit if leaving the country.

There's different exemptions.

Exemptions from having to take back the container for retailers under 250 square metres - but still have to charge the deposit.

Exemption if the beverages sold are mainly consumed on the premises - don't have to charge the deposit to consumers but are meant to the collect the bottles themselves.

I just noticed that in my Dunnes app... the wallet has a title for "Reward and Re-turn Vouchers".

I wonder if that's a sign they are planning to link up their machines so your refund can go into your Reward account hmm.

I am guessing that it would be some option you tick, or auto if you scan rewards card at the machine?

The refund voucher from the machine has to be spent in that store so it is not much of a jump.

I imagine that means return voucher as in the voucher you get for returns of normal stock. Nothing to do with the (badly named)ReTurn scheme.

It has the Re-turn spelling with the hyphen... as the scheme usually does and you omitted in an act of vandalism :)

We'll have to see how it pans out.

Totally agree but they are forcing you to spend it in the store you return the empties to anyway. Unless you claim back in cash, which they know most won't. At least this might mean less paper wastage.

Yep, something like an opt-in option as @odyssey06 mentioned above would be ideal.

It would make commercial sense to Dunnes if they can do it.

Their business model is based on loyalty and repeat sales through the "10 off 50" and Clubcard schemes.

Bringing the Re-turn vouchers into the app would give them a USP to attract new customers as well.

Ever hear the phrase the free market?

Remember those promises of access to all of the EU markets and good!

If small producers from other countries and even our own for example craft breweries face increased costs, they will pass it on, to us the consumer. Those noted may not bother to supply the Irish market.

I'm sure it's already been addressed in this thread but there's too many posts to go back on to confirm, so here's my first time experience with the Return scheme.

Packed up a bag of empty 2 Litre bottles and some cans.. all with the Return logo on them. Headed off to my local SuperValu, within walking distance so no major effort involved. Essentially a trial run to see how the whole system worked out.

Everything I deposited into the machine was rejected with the error message '"Too Fast.. try again".. (or something along those lines).

I stepped back and allowed those behind to give it a go. They were met with the same message.

Adjacent to this Return machine was an industrial skip, containing a substantial amount of plastic bottles, cans.

The cynic in me would lead me to believe this is some sort of scam.. machine not accepting bottles, cans. A typical customer reaction would be, "ah feck it.. I'll just throw 'em into the skip!" Later on the Return machine can be calibrated to accept previously rejected material and someone could end up with a nice little earner!

Too much of a stretch? Should I head over to the Conspiracy thread?