Fired from bar-job for not charging staff full price of pints

Well he worked there 3 years. Its highly unlikely that after surviving that long he was useless.

What else can we desiminate from what we were told. The manager send out the duty manager to summarily dismiss him. Its unusual the manager did not do it himself.

I wonder how long this manager was in place. Was he recently put in charge and had he an issue with some that longer serving staff

Well how do you rate it. He did not benefit, and looking at pub margins the pub was probably not at a loss either

On the scale what he did was a 1

2. Having a pint yourself if it's not allowed

3 taking a few can for a party

4 taking a few bottles of spirits to sell or swiping a 20 out of the till

5 Mugging the manager or owner when they are leaving with the nights takings or giving information to criminals to do it.

You could add in other more serious acts that are not related to stealing directly from owner, dealing drugs or helping sone one deal them. Leaving a wet floor so someone you know will slip on it for a compo claim.

Like I said on a scale on 1-5 it's a one

I didn't say useless I said "good staff"

As you admitted it is hard to find staff. As the OP mentioned he was on multiple warning.

Stealing is stealing.

I worked in the industry but only for a short period. Giving out drinks to staff after closing time and then sending them off in cars as suggested wouldn't be something I could see any decent establishment recommending. Long shift, maybe not getting to eat much, tired etc etc. Alcohol as we all know can affect people different so it would be very irresponsible of a manager/owner to hand out free pints if people are driving.

Now arranged event with taxis etc I would expect.

Working with alcohol and giving alcohol to employee’s everyday after work. I wouldn’t think that is a great idea, but just rehashing the same point so I think we agree 🤣🤣

I've worked in a lot of bars for a long time, thankfully out of it now. One thing I realised is that all publicans/proprietors are insanely paranoid. They think everyone is out to rob them.

After all, how did they get the money to start their own pubs back in the day.

THe question here and of course we will never get the answer was the person in question doing this for other people? seen that trick before used in pubs before, order 5 drinks and charge for 5 drinks, most people won't notice unless watching out that the 5 drinks charged for are lower than the actual cost of the drink.

It less noticeable than giving out free drinks, in this case ordering a pint and paying for a half, for second row you have got a free pint.

If he done it this time and was in the pub for a long time, seems strange he suddenly decided just to do it this day.

You have heard one side of the story and even that biased view admitted the person in question had a number of run in's.

Not sure why it would be a managers/owners fault when a staff member is caught stealing and lets them go.

Yes, and my response in in relation to that story, and some of the responses.

YOU have heard one side of the story too, are you basing your responses on that or on something else entirely?

BTW - what did the lad steal? What I read is that he charged staff for a drink that in most places in my day would have been provided free as part of the 'benefits' at the end of a shift.

It was gross misconduct - theft which means you can be instantly fired

Also it sounds like he probably was up to all sorts and you got the watered down version

If he has numerous warning's and stole from the company why would he win something?

Why would the rank of staff matter? if it was a usual practise why would they even bother asking the people if they had paid the correct amount?

Why would they need a written instruction to tell staff not to under charge people?

As I said delusion and the case would be going to the WRC, in which case both sides pick up there own legal costs so it immaterial about solicitors. Most solicitors might take his case on a no foal no fee. In reality the WRC is set up in such a way employee's can represent themselves with out resort to the legal apparatus.

Not even the price of a pint a glass is usually about 60-65% of the price of a pint, so about the price of another glass of beer

PLus I think the OP left the thread a long time ago when they didn't get the answer they wanted :-)

A phone call is not how its done. No one expects Garda Ploddy to cone out and look for clues.

But there are ways of lodging complaints like this. The guards may well choose not to investigate. Or maybe they will, if Young Lad has come to their attention before. Either way the complaint goes on record.

TBH Mrs o B, there is very few Gardai Ploddy's. Even if the young lad was on there radar, they are not going to get involved, all costs were recovered

OP left the thread not because he did not get the answer he wanted but rather his son had got another job. Maybe as well there was off-line feedback from here.

The outlandish part was everything that indicated it was an unfair dismissal was correct