General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

I wonder if it was edited I don't recall "league" being called out in the comment before I went to reply

I don't think they're particularly being treated like that at all tbh... it was the cup final that drew all the attention onto them, which was then solidified by the Southampton game a few days later. The fact those were knockout cup games - and particularly a final - where falling back on kids should've probably seen them lose in extra time, followed up by the kids scoring 3 in the FA Cup. It's volume (6 of them) in a short space of time that's made it an interesting story.

I mean, since 4 of the 6 came into peoples consciousness there's literally only been 2 league games...

(Though both Quansah and Bradley have had to play a lot more league minutes than Kambwala)

6 kids did notably well in big very recent cup games, and got some credit for it. Why be so seemingly annoyed by that? it's obviously noteworthy, so will obviously get coverage. Literally nobody is reporting that they're now lynchpins or something (though Bradley and Quansah aren't far off becoming that over the next year or two given their performances this season)

Funny we've won an FA Cup, 2 league cups and been to another league cup final since Klopp arrived.

That's essentially a final or trophy in one of the comps every 2 seasons on average.

Me not having heard of that guy helps your argument you know.

The point about the League Cup final (and FA Cup game v Southampton) was that there were literally no other players fit for the bench so who else should he have turned to?

Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Thiago, Szobozlai, Núñez, Salah, Doak, Jota, Jones, Bajčetic all injured and then Gravenberch injured halfway through the first half

This wasn't him treating it like a joke, who else was there but the kids?

A League Cup Final is meaningful. Those guys have winners medals

As Lee Clark said he tried his whole career to win a trophy like that and his son goes and does it at his first try 😀

Perhaps the point that @Liam O was trying to make without actually stating it is that this is the "General Premier League" thread and not "Liverpool FC Team Talk". I can only imagine that for non Liverpool fans it is annoying to see a group of Liverpool fans coming into this thread and discussing the exploits of the young players coming through at the club playing in competitions that aren't the Premier League.

On the subject of teenagers playing for sustained periods at elite level competition like the Premier League, it doesn't always serve them well in the long term. Liverpool fans only need to look back at the later careers of Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen to see the long term effect of not properly managing the minutes of young players.

That also goes toward explaining it so.

Very impressive set up going now.

Bournemouth pull another one back.

Yep crazy. If they had held on they would have been a point behind Everton and two behind Brentford.

3 all and I thought Luton were cruising. I hope they stay up. I was just thinking the combined stadium capacity between these 2 clubs must be just over 20000. Mad isn't it.

Ya and Forest to come at home at the weekend too. Shame for them

4-3 now, seemed inevitable

It's FA Cup Quarter Finals weekend, so any PL games that feature one of the sides still in the FA Cup are postponed.

Typical Chelsea!

If they keep scoring goals, they might not need to ask and they'll be in it next year because of their league position this season.

It's still possible that the 3 teams who came up go back down again (they are 18th, 19th and 20th in the table) and the 3 teams who went down last year come up again (they are 1st, 2nd and 4th in the Championship)

Presume this has never happened before?

Premier League 3-1 up now over the Bundesliga.

Looks like now that all those attackers are back and match fit again, West Ham are coming back into form. 7 points from the last 9 available in the league, scoring a lot of goals, and looking good to progress in Europe.

Gary O'Neil really should be a leader in the manager of the year awards. Sure hes not winning the title but its actually been insane what he has done.

Took charge 4 days before the season starts after Lopetegui gave up after getting fùck all business done to improve Wolves all summer. O'Neil has already matched last years point total with 10 league games left and has hauled them from relegation candidates up to contending for a European place.

they made a balls of that at the end

Just saw Spurs are 3 down to Fulham. Are they going to Spursey up CL qualification and let United back in?

I have seen a fair bit of Fulham this season and I think a result like this was coming. Playing well above their perceived level most of the time.

I know Marco Silva had some poor enough times at previous clubs, but you clearly learn from that, and I’d now rate him ahead of the likes of De Zerbi, Potter, Southgate.

They are a Jekyll and Hyde sort of team, capable of producing brilliant displays against the leading teams but equally capable of producing awful performances against the lesser lights. I don't think Silva is a realistic contender for any of the top club jobs in England that might become available in the future. It's more likely he might move to Spain or back to Portugal. I think his temperament is questionable.

Utd won't be consistent enough to overturn 7 points in 10 games unfortunately.

Spurs can slip up 3/4 times in those 10 games I'd say and still probably make it as Utd won't be close to 100% in the run in.

The loss at home to Fulham the other week probably put it beyond us. Followed up with a loss to City.

On the back of this voodoo curse I accidentally put on O'Neil, I'll now take a chance and say today that Klopp also deserves to be a leader in the manager of the year awards.