Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

The reward for **** up monumentally at home cannot be a cushy well paid job in Europe. This can't be stressed enough. Who is to say that this is not the end goal for some politicians, sell your own down the river so you can get a better job.

Also them may well be able to do untold further damage from there. They should never be able to live off the public purse again imo.

Which "cushy well paid job in Europe" exactly are our pols supposed to be looking to? Ireland's European commissionership will be available to be Micheal Martin in the summer if he wants but he doesn't seem interested, doesn't seem to rate it higher than another potential term/half-term as taoiseach....Are there bigger Euro jobs than that that a former taoiseach/tanaiste might realistically aspire to?

St Patrick was a refugee?

Conceivably.

However Nigerians and Pakistanis are NOT refugees.

Not necessarily bad people but primarily interested in bettering their lives and should not be allowed off the plane.

Remember there was an Afghan went to the high court to sue the Irish state for failing to provide accommodation?

There's must be plenty of potential cases now there outside the IPO.

Last year they succeeded in getting 500 off the streets. It was reported as a success on rte.

I said at the time that unless you stem the flow that 500 would soon be replaced by the next 500.

The same applies now.

They'll never, ever get it.

Morons.

And you're ignoring the failures of the government by putting these men in the tents.

It's government policy to put them into tents.

Where's your anger about this?

I'm not at all ignoring it. Depending on private hotels for so long has been a terrible idea, destined to failure.

It's been especially clear since the beginning of the Ukraine war that large-scale state provided accommodation was required.

It's also been clear for a decade now that we need to increase the supply of housing in general in this country. If anger doesn't come across in my posts it's because I'm as much worn out by years and years of failure and waste in this country. What's worse now is that any hope we had of turning things around and moving in the right direction is also likely to be p****d away on votes for anti-immigration candidates who'll only support another FFG government.

Surely one possible solution at this point to either refuse entry or deport people immediately. I would think this is a reasonable opinion to have now.

I’m fed up listening to RTE and their woke buddies tell us every evening about “those poor men on mount street”…. Jennifer Whitmore is one of the regulars on RTE most evenings crying into her latte. Most of these “poor men” are economic opportunists from Pakistan and similar locations, maybe Jennifer could invite them all down to greystones. I agree with the council in not providing portaloos on the street as it would “normalise” the situation. House those 200 (or whatever) and another 200 will replace them and so it goes infinitum. Enough is enough, we are being scammed, by these “poor men”, by RTE and their cohort of bleeding heart political friends. To greystones or hell.

If only we didn’t have a big ocean between us and the rest of the world… oh wait.

Any proof of your right wing thug theory? If not any idea where one can join the right wing? Any right wing websites? Any right wing leaflets? It’s not illegal to be right leaning in politics so surly there are some politicians standing on a right leaning platform? Is there anything at all to back up this right wing meanace we are being told about? Because obviously some people incapable of free think are gobbling it up. Oh wait… never mind I see a column of lads in brown shirts going down the road here walking like geese.

This.

I spent time in Korea, Taiwan and Japan.

If I had to explain the situation in Ireland to them I don't think they'd understand at all. It would be an alien concept.

It would be a bit like trying to explain mandatory closing times in pubs.

(Something they don't have)

What? You don't simply deport?

What Asian countries don't have this problem? Do people seek asylum there?

Australia has pretty much stopped everyone but pre-approved asylum seekers, which wouldn't be possible here with the six counties, etc.

As you'll see from earlier in the thread, immigration is still the hot topic politically there. Reports that they have a huge amount of undocumented migration and organized crime problems related to facilitating this.

The Economy will "right size" to the population and commercial output of the country, doesn't always have to expand as the end cycle of that is a Boom-Bust period like we get in Europe every few years.

As for "population is in catastrophic free-fall" hardly!... The numbers will balance out and services such as health, education, infrastructure and housing will mean each citizen will have access to good quality services and won't have to fight with Global investment funds for a place to live like we do here..

The Japanese are also way ahead of Ireland and Europe in terms of robotics and automation, and creating A.I based systems so jobs like vehicle Drivers, food servers, factory/warehouse workers, call centres etc etc will become obsolete there in the next few years..

Although once A.I and automation catches up here then there's going to be vast numbers of people out of work and most could be from the thousands of unskilled migrants coming into the country now...

Can you attempt to tackle my second paragraph?

So we don’t have to build more housing but we have to give them accommodation of some type or pay the EU fines? So can we tell the EU now, sorry but those few hundred lads living on our streets will have to leave but here’s a few hundred million euro.

What to you want a small country like Ireland to do to solve the problems of the third world? We already give billions in overseas aid.