The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Em, OK? I mean, I would, but whatever.

Lamar works in Baltimore because they designed their whole system around his approach. It's not a lift and shift, we'd need a completely redesigned playbook and OL/RB to even cover that style of play.

Kirk Cousins on the other hand is a mediocre QB, an above average journeyman who, while he won't win you games on his own, he won't lose them for you either. If we have a team around Kirk we could do well. We're not going to have either, so it's moot anyway, but yes I'd prefer cousins to lamar, any day of the week. Unless I'm playing madden of course!!

It's not just about who can throw the ball further, or run faster. Kirk fits better into most teams as a drop in generic journeyman. Lamar brings a complete different style of play. If the falcons had embraced Vick in the same way baltimore embraced lamar and threw the playbook out the window when he arrived, there could have been an SB win with vick.

As I outlined in post 7654 above, I would go for cousins over lamar based on the probability of success and the less need for change.

Not enough focus on coaching?

He's in the job 2 months, and he's not allowed coach any of his players yet per league rules.

What do you mean? What coaching do you expect to have seen by now?

And what "woke crap"?

I'm speaking more from an NE perspective, from the falcons side of things it probably made more sense to go for lamar all things being equal.

He can be white black red or yellow, his race is not relevant to me. The woke crap is. It would be the same if say Edelman said it. What's important is being a good coach, not winning diversity awards.

I'm excited for Mayo personally, think a breath of fresh air was needed

To be fair, there's a not an equivalent history of Jewish players being exploited and discriminated against.

He's talking about changes and he basically threw Bill Belichick under a bus.

What successful head coach have you heard saying either or both of those things when they got the job?

I was excited when he got the job, I felt he could be a really good one but all this talk is worrisome. It's not only him, Wolf is at it as well.

It's at the stage now that if they take a QB at 3 I'll have no confidence in them.

Even an amateur like me knows that taking a QB that high with the risks attached is a horrendous move with all the holes on our offense. You've got a guaranteed success, best player in the draft, who'll be there at 3 and WR is a huge need for us, probably bigger than QB at the present time. Once you have the tools in place to protect him and the weapons to give him the chance to be successful then you need a QB. For now stick with Brissett and bring in another vet or somebody like Penix or Nix or even some of the other QBs lower than them and take a chance. If it doesn't work out you can draft one next year or pick up a free agent again and take another gamble on a QB.

Fact of the matter is that based on ability in the pocket Penix and Nix are, if anything, more NFL ready than Daniels.

People are looking at the intangibles that Daniels brings to the table, things that more often than not don't transfer successfully from college football.

I don't want a regular season QB who sucks in the playoffs like Lamar or Michael Vick, I want a guy who can go all the way. You need a guy whose great in the pocket to be successful in the playoffs,

Aaron Donald has retired

I don't think Pickett was that bad. He didn't have a great offensive line. He didn't throw many touchdown passes but that's down to the Steelers running the ball in the red zone. He improved in year 2.

I'm not saying hes great or even close but there was progression prior to his injury. I'd have given him another year.

Kinda think he'd suit the Steelers who like to run the ball a lot.

The problem with trading for Fields is that he is entering into the 4th season. Nobody is going to trigger the 5th season if they traded for him. And if he is successful for a period, what contract could you sign him to? The value that the Bears got is about what could be expected.

They don’t need to give Fields the fifth year option they can just see how this year goes and extent him if they want him back for 2025. Wilson will likely have moved on if that happens and Fields would have no reason not to re-sign

The Steelers methodology of patience and stability appears to have been tossed out under the new front office. It’ll be interesting to see how this works out for them

Chiefs sign Welsh rugby union & Lions player Louis Rees-Zammit

Rees-Zammit signed a three-year contract with the Chiefs - typifying the faith shown in the Welshman by Andy Reid's team as IPP players aren't guaranteed any length of contract. He has also been given a guaranteed salary in addition to a signing bonus. He has targeted a hybrid role playing at both wide receiver and running back, and his next task will be to try to earn a regular-season roster spot.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/68686340

Highly unlikely he will be making the active roster as a wide receiver.

If he does make it it will likely be as a return specialist.

No draft thread.

Please Patriots do not join the Jags, Jets and 49ers drafting a QB at three. Those QBs were Bortles, Darnold and Lance. No other QB has been drafted at three in the last ten years.

I think Penix is the best QB prospect in this draft.

Blank is a clown, I've said that many times.

Belichick saying he likes him a lot. He didn't like all the top rated QBs.

This is funny

I'd say the LasVegas and Denver are fuming with Atlanta taking Penix.

With them and Minnesota needing a QB, and Minnesota already expected to take McCarthy there would be only Nix left when it came around to Denver at 11 and LV at 12.

So Denver had to take Nix even though he was said to be the lowest prospect of the top six QBs, and Las Vegas were left without any of the top six QBs.

Chicago did well getting Oduze.