Kilkenny GAA Thread

Quote from Eoin Murphy in today's paper, kind of illustrates to me why it's hard to judge league performances..

"I'm a huge fan of the split season. Probably not a huge fan of such a short break between league and championship because you're in such a hard block of training now. Look, it is relatively easy for me because I'm not doing the same volume of running out the field as lads are in matches.

"It's just a block of training that you're in now that's really your pre-season and it's quite tough on the guys. No excuses because you still want to perform on match-days but it's really prepping for the Leinster championship.”

It's probably too late in the day for such a change but previously Richie Reid was sub goalie. I think most people agree his distribution is good. Might he have been worth a try in goals? I'm sure there are some who think that's a stupid idea but I also think a lot of people feel that Murphy's distribution hasn't improved in recent years, whilst agreeing that he is definitely our best shot stopper.

Saying “if a guy is good enough to be on the bench, he is good enough to start centre back” is nonsense. A player can be at a point in their career (on an upward trajectory) where they justify being a 3rd or 4th choice back man sub, without being able to step into arguably the most critical position on the field.

Comments like this, to me, are the reason most of message boards (in any sport) are nonsense. When the current results are not absolutely perfect, people argue the manager should just change to some other random selection or configuration. This comes with little to no proof or evidence to suggest the solution will work - case in point “play Moylan centre back”. And because this suggestion has never been done before (and will likely never be implemented) there is no concrete way of proving it’s wrong. Similar to Schrondingers cat.

He was our all ireland winning u20 captain 2 years ago center back.We are looking for a center back. He put in huge work to get back on the panel. He had a good year with the club. He deserves a look. Its a league match. Im not saying this chap is the answer, what im saying is what are we going to do next year if scruff,tj,wally,fogarty,buckley all go which they probably will. We should be trying more lads is what im trying to say, especially in a few positions that we have being in bother.

Good job missing the point.

Guy who watches this person train 3-4 times a week and gets to pick the team, decides he’s not at the required level (yet)

Internet poster likely sees the player train a lot less “put him straight in centre back, that’s the solution to our problem position”.

Where did he say "that's the solution"?

So what should people discuss? Just read the team sheet each week, shrug, and say "well lyng knows best"?

Of course Lyng is the boss but surely posters are entitled to their opinions on players and who they think might be in contention for a place on the team???…

Oh my God … these boards woul give you a headache at times .

Is the game on Clubber or GAA Go

1.Eoin Murphy ( Though I would have preferred Brennan and Tallis to get much more gametime aswell), everyone needs stiff competiton in a county setup

Mikey Huw Tommy

M Carey Blanchfield D Corcoran

Cian Kenny Paddy Deegan

Adrian John Donnelly Tom Phelan

Mossy(no one has shown they are better than him and he has goals in him) TJ (can stay in and drift out as he sees fit) E Cody

Good to see Mossy on, we are going to need him come championship. As Kentu said above he can get goals, and no one new is stepping up in that department so far.

Hopefully Luke Hogan can hold onto corner forward, need someone to step up.

I don't think Billy Ryan will be starting another match for KK, he might be more effective in the closing stages but he needs to do something or he'll get the chop altogether

Well done to Kieran's on winning another AI. Much the better team even though it went to extra time, just their shooting was off today. Rory McGlynn well deserved MOTM

Walsh park. Horrendous wet and underfoot conditions. We played with wind 1st half. 2 pts down at ht. We are not good. Mikey butler gone off early with what looked like a twist to his foot somewhere. Lyng visibly annoyed and frustrated with how we play. We have no idea of how to play the football influenced teams. We are so stagnant. We turn left when we should turn right. We pass lateral in our own half and penetrate nowhere. Football teams must love playing us. T walsh getting a little roasted. John d didn't touch a ball for 30 mins but popped with 2 pts in last 5 mins. Mossy is prob gonna start champ. He does win ball. Can turn his man. May score.... mullen is still class. Tj doing his bit. Eoin cody some good scores but some blind alley stuff too. Hard to really judge anyone individually with the conditons and they do look heavy legged some of them.

When we have to try work is out from back, nobody makes a real run,dummy run, cut back run, through ball run. Whereas waterford if a back takes a ball and finds himself at a dead end at his 45 flag then he knows to turn back for a lad running by, or a midielder sweeping back, or that if he carries it in there will be a lad who has made a diagonal run from the middle further up his own sideline that the back can put a through ball in front of. We very rarely look that coached or intelligent.

Edit. I dunno who in full forward is scoring. They have 3 green helmets!

Got the win. Not sure what else you can take from the game in those conditions, relentless rain and pitch was nearly unplayable in places towards the end.

I'd feel sorry for the Waterford fans watching those Davy tactics they deserve better than that.