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Wrestling News & Rumours Thread ***NO CHAT***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Logan Paul is perfect for pro wrestling. He just gets it.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Officer999


    I can’t copy a Twitter post, but there’s a video on there shot from the crowd and you can clearly see glass hitting people in the front row from the Darby spot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    Sure they will be grand as poster above said many are considering taking action. They will be quids in then when they take action.


    Regards,

    P.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I see a lot of reports today that the WWE lowballed Okada & Ospreay on money thinking the WWE & Wrestlemania was a big enough draw for them to take less money.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I don't think that's too surprising (if true). WWE don't need to write blank checks, especially for free agents. Especially when they haven't been in WWE before and can be a bit of an unproven commodity (in the WWE style of doing things I mean).

    That's not a knock on Okada or Ospreay, they're some of the best talents in the world. People go to WWE for exposure just as much as cash though. Someone like Ospreay is amazing but there's nothing to say he doesn't become another Ricochet in WWE. In WWE, he might not be a top player cause of how stacked the upper card is right now. In AEW, he probably has a much better chance of rising to the top.

    WWE pay in exposure and star power and pay well, AEW may pay better in cash and possibly in showcasing your talent but you're also going to forever be seen as being in a smaller pond (not speaking ill, that's just the way it is). There's positives to both. The longer AEW goes on the more people we'll see head to WWE and vice versa, it's the way it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    As mentioned, alot of talk about Triple H undervaluing Osprey but I think the truth is Triple H probably didn't know who he was besides hearing his name.

    Triple H is a busy man. Highly doubt he's sticking on NJPW world in his spare time lol. Probably just got a highlight reel.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Shayna Bayzler will be part of this year's Bloodsport. It would also appear that there's more WWE stars expected to be announced for GCW events. That is pretty class! If nothing else signals that we're in a new post-Vince era. Could ever have imagined this a year or two ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    It's class indeed and a nice boost to the indies. My own companies last show went over really well and we've had some AEW folks reach out to work with us so shaping up for a wild summer of surprises. Can't wait!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    So this is WWE entering the Forbidden Door through a sidedoor that is GCW's Josh Barnett presents Bloodsport X.

    The main event for Bloodsport is Josh Barnett vs. Johnny Bloodsport (AEW contracted wrestler.)

    No mention yet who Shayna Baszler will fight it would be great if it was her friend and former Bloodsport competitor Marina Shafir to make it a true Forbidden Door match.

    Mox has been on 4 of the last 5 Bloodsports cards I wonder will he show up this year.


    I did wonder now that Riddle is not contracted to WWE would he show and challenge Barnett for the Bloodsport name since he presented the first Bloodsport before he joined the WWE.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,052 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I'm sure he's not watching week to week, but there's no way Triple H didn't see the two Omega Ospreay matches for instance.

    I wonder if Ospreay is a bit too wild and visceral for the WWE product right now though, and would need to be toned down a little bit, in which case does he lose a lot of what makes him valuable? Okada on the other hand would've fit in with WWE as is I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    It's an interesting question alright. How aware can Triple H be. But that's why he has people under him recommending talent. As what was being reported.

    Only my opinion, but how can Triple H keep his finger on the pulse outside WWE? He is busy with his role within WWE. I am willing to bet his daily schedule is mental filled with meetings, creative directions and the weekly running of the tv.

    Again, only my opinion, but there's no way Triple H is watching so called "5 star" matches reported by Dave Meltzer in his spare time. There's talent scouts and road agents who have his ear to suggest talent and recommend their worth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,052 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    As you say I'm sure he has other people for keeping his finger on the pulse.

    But if he’s considering making a significant investment on a new talent, you'd have to figure he’s taking 20 minutes to watch their involvement in one of the most talked about matches of the year. Would be pretty negligent of him to not do even that little bit of due diligence on a potential business deal.

    i see the reported stuff about Trips undervaluing him has been walked back since anyway with new reports saying that, in negotiations, details around WWE scheduling and where he’d have to live played a big part of Ospreay’s decision to go with AEW instead.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    The WWE makes over a biilion a year in revenue and pays it it's entire roster about 10% of that revenue so it is well used to lowballing talent and with TKO now owning it now and who lowball UFC talent there as well I doubt anything is going to change in fact it may actually get worse for most of the WWE roster.

    WWE also can and do fire contacted talent on a whim to increase profits.

    Talent now have options to say yeah Wrestlemaina is great however so is actually getting paid more money somewhere else and having decent job security in their contract.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    10% of a billion is 100 million. Not exactly spare change you'd find down the back of a couch😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭SteM


    Why talk about company revenue vs worker pay? Company profit vs worker pay is a more relevant stat I would imagine.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    WWE makes profit while AEW is loss making. I think it’s a case of being business savvy than lowballing.

    WWE have shareholders to appease as well. So spending would be stricter as well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Interesting piece on Becky, most interesting is that she's going to be at the White House along with Varadkar on Paddy's Day 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,229 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Manhandle Slam the cùnt, Varadkar, through the Oval Office table.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,368 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Parker Boudreaux on excursion to AAA and showed up there last night.

    Fair play to the lad he isn't giving up and going to AAA will be a great learning process for him,

    Being a big bully boy American heel in Mexico is always a great gimmick there.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,229 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Becky and Biden

    Becky and some other prick.

    I'm choosing to believe her less warm smile in that pic means she thinks he's a gowl too.



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Jeremiah Ashy Lubrication


    Varadkar and Becky seem equally ashamed/embarrassed to be with the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,676 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I wonder who Biden thought Becky was, Maureen O' Hara maybe 😁 god rest her soul but he did mix All Blacks with Black and Tans



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,868 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    I love the Beckster. Fair play to her for getting an invite to that gig. I doubt Varadkar had a notion who she was mind you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,324 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Guy behind Biden wasn't impressed. Looks like secret service going by the ear piece.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Cotts72




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,052 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Staring straight down the lens too - looks like he's ready to unload on the cameraman if the shutter so much as clicks too loudly in Biden's direction.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Dusty's grandsons debut next Sunday.

    The Texas Outlaws.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,676 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Asuka now injured, ladies tag titles curse continues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Looks like Matt Hardy is jumpiing ship back to the WWE now he is a free agent he was at RAW last night and Michael Cole mentioning him on commentary.

    How long has Jeff left before he is a free agent and he jumps back to the company he faked being on drugs in a match to get out of.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mania 40 maybe? They'd pop the crowd for that night at least even though it's been done before.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Jokes aside though Matt could easily get a cushy agents gig with WWE if he wanted, I'm sure the door is always open there for him.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Tbh no real interest in the hardys back in wwe and that's coming from a fan growing up. Neither Matt nor Jeff can go anymore (plus Jeff's history) .

    Agreed if Matt got an agent job that would be a decent position for him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Nic Nemeth vs Alberto for the vacated AAA Mega Championship has been announced for Triplemania XXXII  Monterrey on April 27th.

    Vikingo had to vacate due to knee surgery.

    El Patron Alberto being a world champion in 2024 would be very strange.

    Nemeth will also face Moose for the TNA Championship on April 20th.


    Nic Nemeth the belt collector could be happening as he is the current IWGP Gobal Heavyweight Champion in NJPW.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Reports today that the The Motor City Machine Guns will be free agents next month.

    That would be a big lose for TNA.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Lots of speculation too that he's going to be at OTT's Scrappermania in August.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Bellator events are going to be streaming live on MAX from Friday. Wonder what this means for a potential AEW/Max deal.

    Kinda surprising they went out and got this deal when AEW are already part of the WBD family. Then again UFC/WWE being under Endeavour and Bellator/AEW might be a good pairing in WBD's mind.

    Surely, this means that AEW is going on Max in the not too distant future, or once they get another TV deal ironed out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Fightful are saying MLW are in talks to bring Mauro Ranallo in.

    Love hearing Mauro on commentary.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,676 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,676 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Goldberg ranting, poor Asuka





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,229 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    It makes it even better that he is so rattled by it.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Best thing to come out of the whole Tribal Chief run was him squashing Goldberg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,676 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,324 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Unlike Goldberg, all of Asuka's matches actually happened. Since weren't Goldberg's numbers inflated?

    And does he think they planned it just to annoy him which would involve multiple months of planning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    I was surprised to read today that the return of CM Punk and The Rock hasn’t spiked WWE’s TV rating even in the run up to Wrestlemania the ratings have dropped over the last year and have pretty much flatlined over the last few months. I would have thought the return of both would have brought back lapsed WWE fans.


    Regards,

    P.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Hi 'P'.

    I've seen another poster make this argument before. I'd like you to explain 'pretty much flatlined'.

    Because if you look at the ratings, and average for all of 2023, you'd get 1.708 for Raw and 2.22 for Smackdown.

    Here's the last month of Raw - 1.738, 1.649. 1.751, 1.687. Two over the average from last year and two below, so sounds about average.

    Here's the last month of Smackdown - 2.272, 2.348, 2.439, 2.34. The month before was even higher, but all of these are above the average of last year.

    That's before we get into the whole, ratings are down across the board point. I just have to ask if you actually looked at the ratings before you posted or are you being a bit inflammatory? Most people won't respond to this stuff but I find TV ratings interesting cause I'm a movie and tv nerd going back years, so I will. You could make the argument that Punk and Rock haven't 'spiked' their ratings but you'd also have to look at the Raw and Smackdown that happened after their returns and see that they are the highest rated episodes that have happened recently.

    If you wanted to ask, why they didn't keep those numbers, you could. Possibly could be that fans realised that the Rock and Punk aren't going to be wrestling and the 'lapsed fans' aren't gonna be brought back by any one wrestler or probably even, at all.

    Not attacking you for the record, just your post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Petermc83


    you could also argue that the views on social media numbers for these returns have skyrocketed aswell.

    Not all people can watch the product live... and judging by the views that are up on YouTube where the Rock is involved in segments, its hitting between 2mill-5.7mill views!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,676 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I believe Punk's return most highest viewed for WWE for YT social media



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