Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

A campsite in the back end of nowhere ≠

unless I'm missing something here?

They want "asylum", but they also expect to be given full and immediate access to all the supports and (economic) opportunities this State has to offer.

It's greed and opportunism is what it is. A genuine refugee would be glad just to be away from the situation they fled and to have some sort of shelter and help. Not these lads.

He's a Green Party politician, therefore an ideologue and adherent to an impossible fantasy. It's why Catherine Martin has proven equally useless in her mishandling of the RTE affair, and why Eamon Ryan says he and his party will talk to anyone to get into/stay in power.

The ideology (in this case "the environment") is paramount. Everything else is secondary. Theory and ambition above all, including practicality, economics and winning support.

This is why all 3 have repeatedly failed and demonstrates why ideology is a poor substitute for realpolitik, why not only have they made a lot of things much worse (as they did last time they were let at the controls), but why they don't grasp the resentment and disconnect from the general public.

Looking at the videos of these guys walking back along the side of the road to Dublin - I am struck by 2 thoughts -

1. optics look really bad for O’Gorman and the govt in general - this campsite seems to have been created just before Paddy’s day parade - coincidence?

2. The asylum seekers come across as so entitled and ungrateful. Especially with the problems Irish society currently faces. Disgraceful they’ve been provided with a functioning campsite with showers, Jacks etc and they turn around and reject it.

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How dare they try to access health care, social supports etc? The nerve of them. All that’s happened them is have their homes and workplaces bombed to oblivion, neighbours and loved ones murdered and abused and their lives destroyed. They should be left to curl up on the side road and be glad we let them do that.

’But they’ve never paid a penny of tax here’

How could they have? There are generations here that have taken advantage of social supports here and never contributed. It’s the same story the world over. It’s human nature.

‘Help our own first’

Anyone I’ve ever met who has said this would struggle to tell you the name of a local charity let alone spend their time or money helping another.

It was all the same stories and arguments and scaremongering 20/25 years ago here. The vast, vast majority of people who arrived here from that time are contributing members of society with successful children starting in the world of work now, active in their communities, top students in school and college.

The horror stories of ghettos and no-go areas never materialised.

Neither government nor the AS look good as a result of today tbh.

Virgin Media News crew giving lads a lift back into town to help record the evening headlines.

Once you have the media colluding with the state to create the news you are in trouble.

Many people suggesting these lads are so well dressed and groomed that there is no way they are sleeping outdoors in tent in the middle of winter/spring.

The whole thing is a cod.

What govt could form without FF?

None. Unfortunately no government can be formed without 2 of either FF,FG or SF. FF and FG are codding the public pretending to be 2 separate parties, there are basically the same but by staying apart are splitting the vote keeping themselves in power.

Aodhan O’Riordain is suddenly piping up because he wants to give the impression that The Labour party actually have something to offer the people in the upcoming European and National elections, he should sit back down and enjoy his taxpayer funded salary before he loses his seat in the Dail...

I must have missed that war in Albania, the bombings in Botswana, genocide in Georgia.....

The plan to clear the asylum seeker slum around the IPAS office for St Patrick's Day has hit a snag as the men they moved to Crooksling have broken out and want to head back to Dublin via the N81 Tallaght to Blessington Road. All walking on each side of the road. It's mad. Looking at the videos, the banging on the gate and making demands is the height of entitlement we are dealing with. Also, the English accents are a bit odd.

This is the statement by the "activists". They thought they were getting moved into hotel accommodation but it was a campsite.

Nick right now proves that NGO’s need to know their place.

1 extremely filthy dirty cubicle for 120 people