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Clare GAA Discussion - 2024 All Ireland Hurling Champions

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    You'd have to say it has been a good league campaign, plus minimum 2 more games to go.

    We still have all of the 2023 team on the panel (ok, R.Taylor and Kelly are injury concerns).

    We have given decent time in the league to Leen, C.Galvin, D.Lohan, Foudy and Smyth. Not sure if any will start in the championship, maybe Lohan, but they're well placed to step in as needed. Aiden McCarthy is back playing regularly.

    If picking a championship 15 now, I'd still be a bit unsure of who would start at midfield with Malone. Also, who is first back-up at full back if anything happened to Cleary? ?

    if we are assured of league semi final, I'd prefer to take on Offaly in the next game without Cleary and Conlon at 3 and 6. I'd also like to see Meehan given a start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭funnyname


    Clare Limerick tickets will be distributed through the clubs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    We could still end up meeting Limerick in the league before that...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Quite experimental from Clare for Sunday in Birr.

    Good to see Meehan getting a start.


    1. Eibhear Quilligan (Feakle)


    2. Rory Hayes (Wolfe Tones)

    3. John Conneally (Clooney-Quin)

    4. Conor Leen (Corofin)


    5. Ross Hayes (Crusheen)

    6. Conn Smyth (Feakle)

    7. Cian Galvin (Clarecastle)


    8. Seadna Morey (Sixmilebridge)

    9. Darragh Lohan (Wolfe Tones)


    10. Gearoid Sheedy (Ogonnelloe)

    11. Davie Conroy (St Joseph’s Doora/Barefield)

    12. Patrick Crotty (Scariff)


    13. Keith Smyth (Killanena)

    14. Ian Galvin (Clonlara)

    15. Shane Meehan (Banner)



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Sure, Johnny Kelly waved the white flag in his media interviews after the cork game last week saying he was playing the extended panel against Clare. And Lohan said, go on, ammmmmmm, grand so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    A good weekend for the senior players to go on the lash. One last blowout before championship :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    didnt make the trip to birr today , was expecting it to be close but wasn't expecting it to be that close , i know we were down to almost our third string today but i would have hoped a few more fringe players stood out , listening to the commentary the more regular players done most of the grafting , thats how it came across on the radio anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clare 0-15 0-12 Aintrim

    A much more comfortable victory then the scoreline suggests, antrim a dogged side and one that played too close to the edge at times , were lucky to finish with 14 men on the field , and surprise surprise andy mcintee the antrim manager throwing he weight around on the sideline all day , even made his way over to the clare technical area to have a go at mark fitzgerld when colm mclarnon was sent off for a knee into gavin murrays mid section , he protested to the 4th official that he was jumping for the ball , a ball that had yet to be placed on stephen ryans kicking tee down the other end of the field .....

    in the first half antrim were dreadful and the scoreline could have been bigger then the 0-9 0-3 lead built up at half time , clare without emmet mcmahon were ponderous in attack but did expand the lead to 11-03 before the visitors mounted a late comeback , to be fair it was a flattering comeback as 5 of aintrims 9 second half points were scored in the last 5 minutes and the 4 minutes of injury time , when ruairi mcCann kicked aintrims last score in the 75th minute it preceded the last kick of the game

    a few worries for mark fitz to worry about ahead of the down game next week , emmett mcmahon was sidelined with an injury , daragh bohannon that was expected to make the bench wasn't in the match day panel , ronan lanigan and cormac murray picked up injuries , not to mention being out scored late on 0-9 points to 0-4 in the last 30 minutes of the game ,

    hopefully both will be back along with mcmahon who will be badly needed in newry next week if we are to have any chance of going up

    Clare scorers

    Mark McInerney 0-4, 3f

    Ciaran Downes 0-3, 3f

    Aaron Griffin 0-3

    Cormac. Murray 0-2,

    Dermot Coughlan 0-1

    Joe McGann 0-1

    Gavin Murray 0-1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clare 0-13 0-6 Waterford

    first round of the under 20 football championship tonight in lemmybrien was played out in terrible conditions , clare had the lead at half time with a strong wind at their backs leading 0-6 -0-3 at the break

    waterford made it more then a contest until the sending off of midfielder david butler half way through the second half , a brace from josh moloney a tom curran point from play and 2 darren keane frees helped clare pull away in the last fifteen minutes to go top of the phase 1 group

    clare scorers

    Darren keane 0-6 6f

    Josh Moloney 0-3

    Conor Fennell 0-2

    Tom curran 0-1

    Sean Neylon 0-1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    hold on now a second , your barred from this thread until 6 o'clock next sunday evening , the last time you were hanging around here ye beat us out the gate , not only that but ye didn't win another meaningful game for the rest of the year

    every single game plan we had was curbed , even our goalkeepers one flaw of defending sideline balls from 45 yards away ye were on top off.....

    i was only walking the dog in ogonnelloe hai ,he said !!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    I've already got the boot down for Murty Browne's.

    Sure, listen, I'll walk the legs off the dog around a few fields this week. Might even water the plant in a few Ennis shebeens.

    But sure we're only delighted to be taking the field with such an elite outfit so early in our transition. We'll show up and take our learnings for a bit of growth in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    you will find nothing in murty brownes only horseracing talk and football , tis just a poor mans ballyclerihan, also i live up the road so stay out!!

    a hay barn beside the shanbeen in doora is where the dubliners slept after a gig their back in the mid 60s so theres nothing there of any interest , that's the venues only claim to fame , we dont want to be boring you with them places , the dog loves slieve barnagh anyway by the sound of his bark.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Only joking. Sure, you'd run a finger down a wall here, from The Power House to An Teach Ol, and the game plan would come away in your palm.

    Sure, a good pair of binoculars from the Leprechaun House would nearly do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    your starting to sound now like 'Barry' from eastenders in them paddy power ads , as peter crouch would say , we have been too busy trying to win a real competition lads 😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    it was probably a tough spring last year , but he was the best goalkeeper in the club championship , he has 20 yards in his range ahead of every goalkeeper in the county

    but quillagin is by far the best allrounder and shot stopper , there's no fear of him dont worry 😎



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    WIll ye risk Hogan and Conlon? Probably save em for the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    yup..... is the only answer lohan is likely to give hopfully not , and cleary on the bench also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    The league semi final v Tipp is scheduled for Portlaoise, which seems kinda random.

    Could they not just toss a coin for home advantage or something



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Could the ennis pitch have taken another game? Thurles is not available. Has to be got right for championship. Gonna be a lot of abuse of fields in the next few months from senior to under 20s in both codes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    If we need to travel to Portlaoise, sure why not just go to Cork and join a double-header with the other semi final.

    It would bring bigger crowd and probably better atmosphere, a bit more bang for your buck.

    Venue aside, I'm curious if Clare playing a second team at the weekend means Lohan will go strong for the league semifinal. A bit of silverware would do no harm at all, but the league final is only two weeks before championship. Winning the league never seems to do Limerick any harm.



  • Registered Users Posts: 675 ✭✭✭supernova5


    yea if we don't get some kind of dry spell soon the early part of the championship will equate to Winter type League hurling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    We're getting some back-to-back Clare action on TG4 this Sunday.

    Football promotion decider Down v Clare from Newry at 2pm

    Hurling league semi-final Tipp v Clare from Portlaoise at 4pm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭fire_man


    Clare U20 came up short today.Have they what it takes to make semi finals now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    they would need to beat limerick in the last game , waterford have been competitive so no guarantee that tipperary will beat them either ,but its advantage tipperary really with the head to head . top two go through to the munster semi finals

    limerick 3pts

    tipperary 3 pts

    clare 2pts

    waterford 0 pts



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    haha what a time to be alive jasper 😂 , yeah both games are really 50/50 with limerick out of the hurling now it would be no harm and drive on ant try and win it out , that extra game would be worth anything ahead of the first round of the munster

    to have 5 players to come back in the likes of tony, shane o donnell , ryan taylor , david mc and cathal malone to a championship side ,and still have a huge chance of winning a league without them is remarkable

    footballers have a great chance , i questioned downs mentality to see the job out at the start of the league , they have a fine squad of players but do look to be lacking confidence especially in close games , its something down manager conor laverty has mentioned sometimes causing controversy in the past , especially when comparing his club killkoo's attitude in the club championship to the county side ,

    it was evident in the draw last week in mullingar as it was in the tailteann cup final last year against meath , on paper i think down actually have a better team then both but didnt play up to that potential in both games ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    nothing wrong with downs attitude today , , far better side and taking every chance presented



  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Treble double


    I would prefer to see Clare in Tailteann Cup, Tipp and Waterford are awful so Clare could end up in a Munster Final. This team is not ready to compete with the elite teams, messy beatings will set them back. The Tailteann would have been a better learning experience. The drop in standard from Div 2 to 3 is huge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Jayzus it went badly wrong for the footballers in the second half

    when Downes got that first score of the second half I really thought they might kick on and do this, but wasn’t to be

    we can do it next year, Fermanagh and Kildare will be more manageable than Down and Westmeath, both matches being away also didn’t help



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    to be fair we only lost one game , that to the best team in the division , we will have the likes of keelan sexton and eoin cleary back next year , we went into today with a team carrying injuries , to be fair its been a good league i hope we maintain our sam mcguire status , we wont learn anything playing division 3 and 4 teams all it seemed to do was drag us down to their level



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  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭KIB4Life


    Clare’s style of play, slow build up and non-existent kicking game is what is gonna hold Clare back more than anything. Down had a faster build up, and a kicking game and were willing to take on Clare men and their support play was a lot better than Clare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    it cost them yesterday too in the under 20s , they need to be encouraged to take teams on down the middle , we done it loads of times against the weaker teams in the division this year , thats why i want us to hold on to our sam McGuire status by wining the munster semi final them games will stand to us massively next year ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    yeah good league but two teams in different directions at the moment down a couple of years down the road in development , we hammered a lot of that down team a few years back in division 2 , the performance from our lads especially early in the second half a bit of a let down



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    this is the first game since covid i have had to watch on tv , it doesn't do anything for the nerves , i feel we have gone flat in the last ten minutes of the first half , conor leen having a great game the jersey is his come championship at the moment , 10 different scorers int he first half but that wind looks strong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    What happened to Mark Rodgers ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    he seemed like a lad that didn't want to come off ,at the time i taught it was a blood injury and was expecting him to go back on , i am not sure



  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭KIB4Life


    Ah I’d expect us to be in the Munster Final and the Sam Maguire given the side of the draw we are in. Ironically in doing so we could prevent Down or Westmeath being in Sam Maguire.

    Mark Fitzgerald actually referenced on the Smaller Fish Gaa podcast about the Clare players being too hesitant in kicking the ball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Hard to know what to make of the hurling. Tipp were very poor, particularly in front of the posts. How can they miss so many frees ?!

    Some strong performances, D.Ryan, D.Fitzgerald, A.McCarthy, Leen, Malone, C Galvin etc. so pretty good

    Hogan looked really off it, wasn't sure why he was left on so long. Maybe a deliberate character building thing.

    J Conlon struggled a bit too. I.Galvin and Meehan only hit wides.

    That said, surely that is a much better experience than just training sessions, especially for the younger lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Tight fleld doesn't suit us. That field is short. D. Fitz needs the space to run. Same with Reidy and others. Tipp looked way off. I doubt they were holding back. Having Breen at Corner back says a lot. He's not a modern corner back.

    Hogan has a lot to learn. his trying to intercept rather than defence. Quilligan has to be much more decisive on the ball. Tipp still dangerous and work in progress. The will be very good in the championship.

    Put O'Donnell, Kelly, D. Mc. Rogers for a full game and the threat level goes up. The defence is still getting caught ball watch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    hopefully bohannon will be back for the tipp game , he was a huge loss today , it was a big ask for a young lad like brian mc to hold the fort as main target in midfield today

    i actually blame club coaching for the lack of kicking , some of the teams in the senior championship last year had a phobia in kicking the football



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    exactly , you will learn far more today and the next day about what we really have then sitting at home , i taught hogan was okay in the first half , was poor in the second though , i taught some of the wides we hit in the last ten minutes were dreadful , especially from meehan daragh lohan and galvin , taught david reidy was poor enough too , mccarty gave an exhibition on frees against that strong wind in the second half , realistically that was the wining of the game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    "concussion assessment" according to RTE, hope he'll be feeling ok again soon



  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭roashter


    Where will the league final be on? Should be Thurles, but I'd be fearful they will drag us to the supervalue by the Lee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    most probably , only thing i would say is the crowd wouldn't be massive so parking near the ground and traffic should be fine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    if the game is on sunday week it wont be on in cork as the cork footballers are playing that day there . it wont be on in portlaoise on the saturday as there are two fixtures down for that day there ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Bigger question is whether Clare go 100% to win the final.

    I personally think they should. It’s only one match and they have to turn up and play it anyways. They then have 2 weeks to the Limerick game.

    I don’t think we’ve won silverware yet under Lohan, last league was 2016



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,119 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    once you get to the final you have to go all out and win it , both teams probably need something to show for the last couple of years . kilkenny have lost the last 3 national finals in two all irelands and last years league , while we have lost 2 munsters in a row , something has to give , they have been the best two teams in the country after limerick the last couple of years



  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭KIB4Life


    Yeah it’s not like Clare have too many National trophies down through the year, so they obviously will be going 100% for it. Surely as well winning something will bring confidence to the team coming into the championship especially while missing about 4 or 5 starters.

    Sure the Dublin footballers under Jim Gavin took the league serious I think they won 5 leagues under him and it certainly did them no harm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    I remember Clare losing a league semi-final and someone saying to an old lad here, Clare were better off out losing and out of the league and to focus on the championship.. the answer was the most sensible..." If losing league matches we going to win us Munster championships we would have a load of them by now..." If you are in it,, you are in it to win it. I'd like to see O'Donnell and Kelly if available get some game minutes under their belts.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭roashter


    Hopefully it won't be in supervalue on the Saturday evening



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