Catholic Ireland dead? **Mod Warning in Post #563**

How about a virgin mary statue that has compartment for storing the toaster? Everyone is covered then!

Maybe it's an ironic decor statement. Loving the ugly Catholic imagery.

Not entirely sure what it even means to say we "use samples rather than entire genomes". That needs a bit of clarification as to what the user is writing about. I am not convinced the user in question knows all that much about DNA or what we do with it. They might be referring to the fact that when we are comparing Human DNA to each other we only compare a part of it. But the reason we do that is not complex. It is simply that the vast majority of DNA from person to person is absolutely identical. All the variance we see in humans around us come from only a small part of the genome.

I am also not sure what it means to say we can only be sure of error probabilities if we perform exactly that number of tests. That seems like nonsense and suggests the user knows less about mathematics and probability than they do about DNA. For example we know the probability of winning the Irish Lottery is (or was, my information might not be current) about 1 in 10.7 million. We do not need to run 10.7 million lottos in a row to be "certain" of that.

In fact quite the contrary as you could run the lotto 10.7 million times with the same numbers and still not win any of them. Just like despite the fact the probability of tossing heads on a coin being 50%, you can absolutely toss a coin 10 times in a row and get all heads. I know this because I did it and Derren Brown did it. Just like Brown, any one on this forum could record a video where they say "I am going to toss this coin 10 times in a row and get 10 heads" and then actually do it. The "trick" to how he did it is remarkably simple. youtube.com/watch?v=XzYLHOX50Bc

The thing least clear of all to me however is what this error rate in reading DNA has got to do with anything that is being said, or has been said, on the thread. It seems to me the user hit reply and then wrote a reply that has absolutely nothing to do with the post being replied to. But perhaps if the user is done ignoring my posts in particular, they will offer a clarification :)

Or even the 21st century.

I was in a CBS which had 3 predator brothers during the time I was there. 2 were convicted, 1 died before any conviction. I know there were more in the 2 schools (primary and secondary). They tended to go after the quiet boys who either had weak parents or poor parents. The kinda of parents that ignored it or were afraid to confront it. There was huge fear of the clergy on the 70s/80s. I have school friends that were impacted by these beasts and to say it still haunts them is putting it very mildly.



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There is precious little evidence for the existence of a actual real life jesus outside of the bible and a few Christian doctored sources. He's one of the least documented persons in history outside of the Christian cannon.

There are more eyewitness account of Bigfoot than jesus. Not even Paul says he believes anything other than a metaphysical jesus.

No source that has been transcribed by a Christian monk can be considered reliable, and that covers all sources which reference jesus.

Belief in an actual physical jesus is an entirely faith based affair.

The witnesses back then can't all be wrong. Jesus did exist now whether or not he was just a religious man or the son of God is another story.

None of them wrote or mentioned him for a number of years after his "death" so at the very least the writings are heavily biased

Tacitus I would have thought was the only reference but I'm not sure of his time frame

Catholics have a habit of sexing up events years later to get bums on seats anyway

Contextual analysis of both Tacticus and Josephus show inconsistencies In writing styles suggestive of later additions. They cannot be considered reliable sources for Jesus.

What have you got left if you remove them ?

Each to their own. Bit ignorant on your behalf to accuse believers of being simple. If you don't believe in it that's your choice but don't start with offensive comments.

Will be handy for freeing up land in every town around the country to build apartments on. And thanks to the height of the steeple or spire on most churches it should be possible to build multi storey apartment blocks as the height precedent is already there.

The Christian account would suggest Rome itself was under threat from a preacher hence his arrest and execution, if this were factual we might have more official writings

This thread is starting to go off topic. Whether or not the catholic church is dead does not depend on whether or not people believe that jesus existed in history etc.

Welease Woger! He's a wobber and a wapist!

Funniest bit is the soldiers trying not to crack up on "Do you find it wisible, that I have a fwiend in Wome called Biggus Dickus?" "His wife? Incontintia. Incontinentia Buttocks"

Nobody is obliged to respect stupidity, even if it is religious in nature.

A strong government would somehow work out a scheme to effectively CPO huge banks of land from the RCC as compensation for the redress scheme.

Also why aren't churches being used to house refugees, it would be the christian thing to do.

Yet again, Life of Brian was way ahead of you:

"It's not anyone's fault he can't have a baby - not even the Romans. But we can respect his right to have a baby"

"I'm not religious, but..."

The RCC doesn't get a fraction of the criticism it deserves. All of the bishops who participated in the abuse cover-up should be in prison, but not one of them will ever be held accountable.

They may not see the harm but it doesn't mean it is not doing them harm. Religion is all about controlling an individuals thought and behaviours which is a form of abuse.

If there were a basis in fact then this control might have some justification but no one should be manipulated into obedience.