Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XII (The Byrne Supremacy)

I like the idea of Sheehan, Tupou, Baird and Snyman all in the same pack.

Seems like there's a pattern emerging around our signings. We're targeting the most athletic players we can.

Would be a good signing but I doubt it ends up happening. With Schmidt coming onboard I presume they'd do what they could to keep him home.

Another player with a questionable injury profile however, like Snyman, controlling his game time could be helpful in limiting the risk and also giving the young players a chance to develop.

Good point on the athletic players. Presume part of that is the SA coaching mindset and what he has historically needed his players to do.

Already seeing a lot of pontificating and whining from the usual suspects in red on Twitter about this potential move. The main reason Leinster need to be in the market to sign a THP is that a generation in development in this position were poached by other provinces

Ryan had a procedure on his bicep, can't imagine we'll see him anytime soon

Just found out Rock beat St Michael's. Ugh.

Leinster do poach to some extent, I never claimed they didnt.

Disagree on value, Leinster could survive without Henshaw while the other provinces would struggle without the quantity taken from Leinster. All provinces have benefited and been hurt from player movement.

Leinster have been fine with losing certain players but it is a huge stretch to believe Leinster 'wanted' to lose both Aungier and Salanoa. Losing those to other provinces is a key reason why a signing of a THP is needed and likely why the IRFU will have no issue with it.

If Henshaw decides he wants to live and play in Leinster?

Lol, i'm sorry you mentioned poaching and i'm obliged to mention Leinster massively benefitting from it. Their fans always seem to forget it.

It's all rumour but as far as i know you wanted aungier after you already let him go.

I think you are getting a THP because that's a weakness in your squad, you have money to burn and the irfu is probably happy with higher level NIQs post world cup. I don't think they are making up for 'poaching'.

No need to play the victim because I wouldnt let you drag me off topic into a who poached more willy measuring contest.

The fact is that main reason Leinster have a gaping THP hole is because Munster and Connacht poached/attracted/lured/signed guys on the Leinster squad that were being groomed to be ready around the time when Ala'alatoa's contract was done. If one or especially both were still with Leinster the IRFU would likely have a problem with and potentially block Leinster signing an NIQ there. It is how the IRFU have nearly always operated.

You mentioned poaching. I pointed out that A you are the biggest beneficiaries in pure talent from it and B you could have kept Aungier if you wanted to... but you let him go. And... i'm the victim.

I swear to god, its like a whole province of rugby fans born on third base who think they hit a home run.

Glad to have experienced during my years of being a Leinster supporter seeing the province go from a national laughing stock, with two men and a dog going to matches in a run down stadium, to being 'born on third base'.

Leinster leadership have built a juggernaut and I really relish the bitterness it has fostered in people who post stuff like you just did.

What are u on about? Really, like Ulster haven't been helped out, Piennar, Piatau etc. Munster are the biggest beneficiary of private funding and loan restructuring.

Because Henshaw CHOSE to leave Connacht, does not infer poaching. Would it be poaching if he'd chose Munster?

Leinster are not big beneficiaries. Henshaw chose Leinster. Who or where do Leinster trawl for players? As compared to say.... Ulster or Connacht.

I never said Leinster were getting 'helped out', you've just been triggered by me simply highlighting the cause of why a NIQ THP signing is required and why it likely wouldnt be seen as an issue for the IRFU.

You dragging up a player moving who has nothing do with this current situation, with the move taking place nearly a decade ago with a player who isn't a THP or even a forward, shows exactly what you are and what you're trying to do.

You mentioned poaching, i mentioned that leinster fans talk about poaching alot but rarely the biggest one ever in ireland where they were the beneficiary.

I think its related. You don't, that's fine.

I also still have no idea what poaching means.

In my eyes Aungier wasn't poached but it seems from other posters that its the opposite and Salanoa wasn't poached but Aungier was. I don't really get what people see as poaching i guess.