Israel-Gaza: 'We are at war', says Benjamin Netanyahu

It is unfortunate aspect of this war that the U.N have been shown to be compromised.

Firstly, UNWRA. Before people start crying out there was no evidence, there obviously was if the head of UNRWA fired 12 employees (iirc).

The other consideration about the U.N is the fact that over previous 24 months there have been more resolutions against Israel than the rest of the world...combined! In my opinion, that is madness when you consider North Korea, Saudi, Syria etc. Israel is after all, a democratic country that allows freedom of expression, religion, sexual orientation and speech.

The compromised U.N has exasperated the entire situation.

Strong leadership is required from major players, U.S and Qatar primarily.

The right wing element in Netanyahu government certainly does not help matters either.

I will add, as much as I agree with you regarding the bombings and planned incursion into Rafah. Israel have to remove last remnants of Hamas. If they don't and allow Hamas to re-group in Gaza, the world is ultimately saving today's children to condemn the children of tomorrow to more of the same.

I understand Israel's position but before any incursion, there has to be a plan for civilians in Gaza. In no way whatsoever should there be any ground incursion without the removal and safe harbor of civilians.

100%. People will say the IDF will not stop but if Hamas release hostages and surrender, israel do not have a leg to stand on. Job is done.

I doubt Israel would leave Gaza due to state of that land currently, but that would be dependent on surrounding Arab countries and who, if anyone would be willing to assist.

Palestinians need hope though. Without hope, status quo will eventually seep back in to their society, even without a Hamas present.

There has to be a plan, a road map (as it was called) to a sovereign Palestinian state and guaranteed security for Israel.

You're intolerable.

Answer me this.. Was Israel stealing land when forcibly removing settlers from Gaza in 2006 and handing the land over to PA/Fatah.

Big industrial greenhouses remained (built by Israel) to enable Gazans to grow produce and even trade to generate revenue. Hamas destroyed those greenhouses. Completely obliterated them because they were built by the Jews.

Was Israel oppressing the Gazans when removing its people from Gaza? Were Israel 'stealing' land then? And was leaving the maintained industrial greenhouses for Palestinian people an act of oppression?

This was all part of the Roadmap for Peace btw. A peace Israel wanted.

What happend was Fatah and Hamas started to kill each other and the Gazan people voted Hamas (a recognized terrorist group) to govern the land. Many say the election was compromised as Hamas threatened to kill whoever didn't vote for them... but that's hearsay, isn't it.

Israel is the only real ally of U.S in the Middle East. Saudi is a money generator for U.S but they do not share similar ideology, except the hatred of Iran and suppressing Iranian influence.

Israel is basically the U.S in the Middle east.

This is not about stealing land. This war is about Oct 7th and the eradication of a group that is threatening more Oct 7th's.

And mention of land should not be on any table until the eradication of Hamas. If there is then Hamas have been 'rewarded' for the rape and murder of innocent people.

The issue of a right wing element in Netanyahu's government is worrying though. I certainly hope Netanyahu is removed from office as soon as this war is over and a more center (stable) government is elected.

But as I've said in previous posts.. Palestinian people need hope and it is in Israel's interest to give then hope, or more war and needless loss of life will remain.

Yet, when Israel hold out the hand of peace, the Palestinians bite it. Crazy isn't it. But that is what has happened.

I'm sure you are aware there are Arabs and Muslims living in Israel with more peace and security than any Arab or Muslim in another land around that region. Peace, prosperity and opportunity for all. That is a democracy isn't it? For there are elected Arab politicians sitting in the Knesset and their vote carries the same weight as any Jewish politician sitting in the same building. Furthermore, it was an Arab judge who presided over and sentenced the former President of Israel to jail during his corruption trial (Olmert). In addition, there is an israeli-arab judge currently presiding on the panel of the Supreme Court!

The military aid some might call a necessity. For there is no shortage of hatred towards the state of Israel in that region. Gaza has been provided with billions of aid, little flowed through to the people who needed it though. Hamas as the governing body of that land siphoned most of it off to finance their military/terrorist endeavours. Those rockets might not be precision guided but there also not cheap and nor is the underground network they use to hide below innocent people.

I don't believe a Netanyahu government is committed to peace, but I wholeheartedly believe the Israeli people are. Once this tragic war comes to a conclusion and the investigation in to wtf happened on Oct 7th begins with the removal of Netanyahu/Likud and the right wingers in government, there may just be a small window of opportunity to get the right people in the right positions of power to work towards a lasting peace.

My question is will the Palestinians do the same. It takes two to tango.

The problem is there is no answer. So the Status Quo will remain.

Israel have probably created thousands more would be terrorists with this Gaza operation but in reality, there was not much else Israel could do after an attack like Oct 7th. Force must be met with force. But the way Hamas fight there has been so many lives destroyed and anger/retribution must be at an all time high on both sides of the fence.

It's a complete lack of leadership.

In order to achieve Clinton's roadmap for peace, there should never have been a place for Hamas in Gaza. That organization should never have been allowed to take part in an election when classified by most of the civilised world as a terror group. Who knows what could have been achieved if there was no Hamas in Gaza. But, I suspect it would have turned out the same. That region always falls back into a status quo.

With the rise of extreme right in Israel and the aftermath of a campaign in Gaza that has destroyed so many innocent lives, I cannot see it either.

Hamas ideology will live on too, long after the group has been eliminated. With what we have seen in Gaza/West Bank, that is obvious.

Most Palestinians see the whole land of Israel as their rightful land. Nobody can offer the kind of security guarantee Israel requires to facilitate a Palestinian state.