Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Antisemitic and Islamophobic? You'll have to explain that.

And it's very unusual for a key government member in one country to interfere in the affairs of a supposedly friendly country. Usually decisions about when to have elections are decided by the nation themselves, and other countries respect the internal processes in play.

I called him a Schmuck because that's an insult that best rhymes with Chuck. Not sure how that's anti-Semitic. And telling another country they should have new elections is highly unusual.

Perhaps, but things are different now. Mizrahi (aka Middle Eastern ancestry) Jews and their descendants are now a very large portion of Israeli Jews and they tend to be among the most right-wing Jews in the Israeli population. They form the support base for Likud and make up many of the "settlers" who live beyond the '67 borders.

Make no mistake - as far as Middle Eastern Jews are concerned, Israel is their home.

Plus a huge amount of pressure applied by the Jewish lobby, including Senators, Congressmen etc.

As opposed to your post accusing me of anti-Semitism, which was just bizarre and patently absurd.

Well the people who were Christians were there before they became Christians.....................so going on about the religion itself is not valid

Ok, now you're putting words in my mouth. I took a swipe at Chucky Schumer because I think he and his party are jackasses. I couldn't care less about his religion.

The claim that I took my swipe was "antisemitic" or "because he is a Jewish senator" is a straight up lie.

So you agree, your hyperbole about it being 'US arrogance' was just that? I agree they didn't just sit on their hands- the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a big Hitler supporter, I guess that was his solution for the 'rising zionism.' All this happening in that 20 year period you led the earlier post with.

If there was ever an example of Palestinians (Arabs back then) never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity, the Arab's behavior viz. UNSCOP is a classic. And they were later ignored? Was it the death threats, boycotts or overall hostility you think might've led to the committee being hostile to their leaders that were invited to the discussions, but would rather just make threats?

Plus ca change and all that.

Agreed (seems you can't see who thanks your posts anymore.)

They boycotted the UN talks because they felt the UN were not following their own charter on the rights of people to self-determination. They asked the UN to follow their own charter, but that was dismissed. That is the underlying issue here, the local populations being ignored whilst Western countries decide their fate. The Palestinians were never offered the right to self-determination, but the Zionists were allowed to come in and set up their own state. In the post WW1 period, many European countries got to decide their own futures, whether as part of brand new states Czechslovakia, Yugoslavia etc or reborn states such as Poland. Self-determination was the buzz-word post WW1 even though it was still at the whim of the great powers. Ireland was never given a hearing for example. Likewise the Arabs were not allowed to decide their own fate.

The Arabs were asked what they wanted in the King-Crane commission(answer: a pan-Arab state covering Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan), but that was of course ignored by the British/French because it did not suit their interests under Sykes-Picot. The Arabs had little faith in the Western powers and rightfully so, and little influence with the Western powers like the US in contrast to the Jewish lobby. The Arabs actually controlled Greater Syria after WW1, but the French fought them and took control of the area. Why would the Arabs be confident in engaging with people who had shown time after time that they had little interest in the wishes of the people of the region?

Schmuck isn't reserved for Jewish people though? Yes it's Yiddish but is applied to and used by anyone regardless of their ethnicity (although it's not exactly a common word these days). Same as klutz. I would think as an American you would know this.

Can you think of another insult that rhymes with "Chuck?"

If this were an American site, where the pejoratives showed up with any regularity, you might be a quarter of the way to a point.

More like a distinction without a difference. And though I commend your expertise in obscenities, the f word is generally not used as a noun, at least in my experience. I was looking for a noun-based insult that rhymed with Chuck, ergo, Schmuck. As for your post about words like klutz and schmuck being used commonly in the US but not elsewhere, you should know that US culture is exported throughout the world by TV shows, and many Irish people have spent time in the US and vice versa.

As to what I was attempting to do: that was very simple. Insult a jackass politician for whom I don't really have much regard. Any claim to the contrary is false.