What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

I think for years his lack of business sense has been masked by shady backers.

The problem now is, anyone who backs him will be subject to media scrutiny, and furthermore, people will be asking "who is he beholden to?".

Harder to operate legitimately in daylight, isn't it, oul Donny Nobucks?

Plus I'd say a lot of them are paper billionaires. Their net worth is mostly tied up in shares and assets, and most of them take out loans to pay for big expenses which the banks happily give because of their net worth, interest and to keep them happy.

The reason Trump can't come up with the cash himself is his assets have been proven to have been falsely valued and hugely inflated, his shares are tanking because of the trouble Trump's companies are in, and he's essentially lied to most of the banks he's dealt with.

Why on earth would any billionaire Republican donor sell off assets and shares to help pay Trump's near half-a-billion dollar bond when he's incredibly likely to lose, his assets aren't worth sh*t and are likely tied up in loans, and his legal team are as bad in front of judges as the bewildered rejects that get thrown in front of the X Factor judges for the audience to mock and laugh at.

Ya know what Joe? It's almost like, he's not a successful businessman?

538 podcast doing a good bit of philosophising over the reliability of polls with the two presumptive nominees being virtually neck and neck. The latest episode is called, "How worried should Democrats be about the polls?"

I would argue that they should be fairly worried, if only to nip complacency in the bud. The podcast is talking about how reliable polls can be, and certainly not every poll is, but aren't they the main way of predicting electoral outcomes and gauging the mood of the electorate?

Questions would be if polls are not the best way of gauging this, what is? And also, at what point should Democrats become worried, if they aren't already, should the numbers hold? After the party conventions?

Or another question is, would he get security clearance if he's bankrupt and a potential asset? Or maybe I've been watching line of duty too much

Edit - ignore.

FINALLY, someone is going to try using the "he was talking about the automobile industry" defence.

Work away sir/madam, the floor is yours.

Thats pretty much my thinking as well. Being vocal on the internet, Pro-MAGA sh!t posting on the internet doesn't necessarily automatically convert to getting off yer arse to actually go and vote.

A sort of Hare and Tortoise situation. The MAGA types celebrating their win from behind a keyboard, while the Dems just vote the fucker candidate out.

Plus from a Russian interference point of view, it is very easy for FSB agents to write a few bots which answer Trump on online polls.

Covered it here: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909248/#Comment_121909248

Bloodbath is a common term for a downturn in a market. He was talking about the auto industry under Biden versus under himself. The clip that circulated leaves out all of that for maximum damage.

It's just frustrating as Trump says so much bat **** crazy stuff that we shouldn't be reaching for contentious quotes that Trump and his followers can shout FAKE NEWS about and be right for once.

He could maybe, but if so the accrued interest would crucify him.

I have to say, regarding the "bloodbath" comment, I do think it's fair enough to say that he was talking about the motor industry. I mean, he's pretty much said similar about the election itself numerous times, and likely will again before November, but on this occasion I think the reaction is unwarranted.

It's also meant that this moment, where he says he wants everyone to sit up and pay attention to him like Kim Jong Un (the dictator) has the people of his country do, has kind of gone under the radar.

So you are with Steve Bannon?

"Flood the zone"

Give him a pass because he has said worse?

We can make up our own minds what we think he was trying to say.

He has so much shìt in his brain that it oozes out willy nilly.

Then he should bloody well make sure that he makes it clear what he is talking about. He is the GOP candidate for POTUS, the leader of the GOP, and the ex-POTUS. His words carry a lot of weight and he should be careful what he says.

This wasn't some doorstepping by a journalist, and wasn't some gotcha question during a debate. He was giving a speech and he needs to be more careful. As Jan 6th showed, even if you believe his story that he had nothing to do with it, it is clear that there is a portion of the US that takes his words literally and will follow what he says.

This constant need to give him the benefit of the doubt, to excuse him, is what has allowed him to become the danger he is. People, all people, need to stop making excuses for him and start calling him out on his lack of care (I am being generous to him that he didn't mean it).

But if he really cared, he would come out and clarify the remarks himself, rather than send a PR spin person out to muddy the waters. A clear unequivocal denouching of potential violence. but we all know he is not going to do that as he sees this type of language as a call out to his supporters. Knowing that there will be enough people willing to excuse him he avoids any blowback.

Kimmel has fun roasting Trump over being upset Kimmel humiliated him at the Oscars

Also interviews Trumpers at a rally who can't recognize the role of the constitution, how many amendments it has, or get through singing the national anthem.

Well it was said in 2018 so not sure how the Bloodbath thing has pushed it under the Radar.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/trump-twitter-surprise-interview/