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New Rules GAA

  • 24-02-2024 11:57am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭


    Space for discussion of proposed new rules and newly passed rules.

    For instance, Congress just passed the motion that any player who removes their helmet or has their helmet removed by another player must leave the field of play before returning to play. Removed by physio or doctor too. David Hassan says referees have told the playing rules body that it's a regular occurrence and they're not certain if they are genuine head injuries. "In other words, it's a time-wasting tactic." 

    All cards to now carry into extra-time. Will be in for championship. Hurling’s black card extended to U-20 and minor at county level.

    Post edited by evolvingtipperary101 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    The new (Cork proposed) 60 hour exclusion window between u20 and senior seems a nice middle ground they've voted on, envisaged coming in next year. The current rolling week long exclusion a little too 'all or nothing' when it comes to exceptional young talents. Fingers crossed it's used well with a close eye kept on player loading.

    Fixing the black-card loophole a great fix too. Never should have been a problem but great to see it finally fixed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Hard to see a teenager making an impact at senior inter county but the option should be there. There’ll always be one that’s ready



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    David Clifford and Cathal O’Neill have been the poster boys for it and why the change was important. Just last year Eoin McEvoy (Derry) and Sam Callinan (Mayo) both u20s making a major impact at Senior. We had Sam successfully man-marking Shane Walsh in a must-win pQF. Nearly always a few of them around making a big impact, even with the modern S&C demands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Fixing the black-card loophole a great fix too. Never should have been a problem but great to see it finally fixed.

    What was this change?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    "MOTION 22: This motion proposes that cards, in all circumstances, issued in normal time would carry forward into extra time."

    Stops the loophole where you were better off getting a red (black/yellow to avoid a ban) card and could be instantly replaced in extra time as it didn't carry over Vs. a black card which carried over into extra time and left your team a man down.

    Niche cases but a silly position to ever put teams in where you'd be in a better position getting a second yellow after a black on your way off the pitch seconds before the final whistle.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Dan Ravenhill might be another. See how it goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,877 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The "small print" version of the motion about cards.

    (22)

    That Rule 2.5 - Rules of Specification - The Players - Players in Extra-Time – Official Guide Part 2 (page 7) be amended to read as follows:

    a) At the commencement of Extra-Time, a team may replace any or all of the Players on the field of play at the conclusion of Normal Time

    b) A player ordered off in any circumstance in Normal Time, may not play in Extra-Time and may not be replaced

    c) A player in receipt of a Black Card and ordered to the Sin Bin for ten minutes with less than ten minutes remaining in normal time shall be one of the players on the List but shall serve any remaining time in the Sin Bin in Extra-Time.

    d) A Caution (Yellow Card) issued in Normal Time shall carry over into Extra-Time as shall a Black Card.

    e) The Referee shall be given a List of the players starting Extra-Time, or a Note clearly indicating the changes made from that of the finishing team in Normal Time. This List/Note may be in single form but shall otherwise comply with the provisions of Rule 2.4 - List of Players.

    f) In an Inter-County Game, only players on the List submitted to the Referee prior to the game may start Extra-Time.

    g) Substitutions/Temporary Substitutions shall be allowed during the playing of Extra-Time as outlined in Rule 2.3(ii) and (iii).

    Ard Chomhairle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    I see The GAA is inviting tenders to undertake research into hurley and sliotar performance. This research aims to provide an evidentiary base to inform current and future regulations related to the hurley and sliotar.

    Specifically, the GAA would like to ensure that the testing employed to enforce hurley and sliotar regulations are valid, reliable, and contextually relevant.

    Will they able to regulate a standard hurley and its dimensions?

    GAA invites tenders to undertake research in to hurley and sliotar performance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Those new rules all sound sensible, let's hope they work well.

    One issue that needs to be dealt with is the timewasting a team does to run down the clock when they get a black card. It's often the goalie goes down injured or with a contact lens issue or something, needs to be a better way to keep the game flowing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    Yeah. That along with intentionally slowing play (especially when preventing counters when turned over until teammates are set) needs to have the punishments upped a few levels (and proper, pragmatic enforcement). I'd be all for giving tap over frees on the 20 or more black cards if it would move the needle on stamping those out of the game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Persistent fouling on the half back and half forward lines to prevent line breaks and allow backs to set up by facing a free is really starting to bug me- fouling the spare hand, clothesline tackles, and just simply holding players, anything to stop a player running through. Makes the game so stop start. Ruins games.

    Cards for persistent fouling seems to be gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Yes, great post.

    The foul after the turnover is ruining the game and it looks like it's trained into teams at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,855 ✭✭✭obi604


    hi. I don’t want to start a new thread for my silly question.

    In an under 11 hurling game of hurling where the pitches are small etc (across the pitch) if an attacker is fouled right on the end line, where is the free in taken from?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    They leave stuff like that as "Normal Rules", so a free puck on the 20m line, with only 65s shortened up to the halfway point.

    u11 Go Games are designed to be pretty flexible (number of players, duration of games, dimensions of pitch all easily variable) and let the kids have some fun rather than having consistent and specific rules standardised across games so wouldn't overly worry about stuff like that. There's even a caveat among in-play rules for "Additional rules can be modified to meet local needs" to give more pragmatism & flexibility, so if a ref is doing something a bit different they're possibly/probably still technically within the rule book.

    U11 rules:

    https://www.gaa.ie/api/images/image/upload/t_q-best/gw0kp4eqmyw0p8cw1mn8.pdf
    or
    https://connachtgaa.ie/go-games-rules/ (all the other provinces would have similar if you fancy grabbing one closer to home)



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