Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Or do like the Brits and put them on a barge like the Bibby Stockholm.

Well I was watching a programme last year on sky about AS in Australia and one of them was refused due to whatever problem they had being a burden on the Australian health system which the taxpayer there would have to foot the bill for.

Imagine being deluded enough to claim that:

(a) We cannot control immigration, so therefore we shouldn't try to discourage asylum scammers.

and

(b) That the only response is to build; that we can and should build enough accommodation for everyone who destroys their passports at our borders, while also building enough houses to sort out our housing crisis at the same time, even though we have had a housing crisis for over a decade and still havent been able to sort it.

Imagine making such outrageous claims and then accusing other people of being unrealistic when they suggest we should implement changes to our immigration policies 😂

You asked a question and I answered it.

VM1 on about Mount Street now.

Nobody asking why VM1 staff were acting as a taxi service at the weekend.

Feels like watching "The Tonight Show' all these asylum seekers should get a house.

But fair play to Independent TD Michael McNamara, fair **** play.

It feels alot these Independents are the only ones speaking for the people

Strange. I could have sworn I saw yourself and your communists buddies repeatedly label others as "far right" and "anti-immigrant" because they said we should stop asylum scammers.

"My argument" , by the way, was that we need to increase the number of visitor visas required in Ireland, as this would help us greatly. Speaking of this, I'm still waiting for you to admit you were talking sħite when you said that visitor visas aren't important. Give us a shout when you want to correct yourself on that one, comrade.

Michael McNamara complaining on virgin media about the length of time it's taking to process asylum applications.

I hear what he's saying, but, if we're talking about incentives doesn't a faster application decision actually make ireland MORE attractive and result in more arrivals? Given that we don't seem to deport people,that means they'll go from 38 euro to full welfare of 230 euro even faster, and the ability to work.

So, shouldn't we just delay and delay their application. Make it a 20 year process living in a tent in Ireland's climate, that will put people off if nothing else will.

What most people want is faster processing of claims, and much more forced accompanied deportations.

Physically brought onto aircraft, and physically removed from aircraft in Albania, Georgia, USA, etc.

This is what pisses me off...there are 'International Protection Applicants' (whatever the hell that is) who simply know that we have a serious housing crisis here, so they know full well if they are allowed to apply and to stay as an IPA, they will be able to work and stay in state provided accommodation.

This whole repurposing of city centre accommodation and building modular homes quickly, like we don't have a serious housing crisis for our born and breds. Why the sudden rush to sort accommodation for others but not our own. A lot of this city centre accommodation should be given over to house students.

I am genuinely sad that my children will not get to live the kind of life I lived, whereby I lived in Dublin city centre for years paying a low rent and had the option of buying a house in Dublin on a teacher salary if I wanted to stay there.

Everything is a struggle these days and it takes the complete enjoyment out of life, constantly worried about money, housing and what kind of life my children will have in the future in this country.

Another thing that pisses me off is how certain people are making serious serious amounts of money from this industry. There should be little to no profit to be made accommodating IPAs and refugees. The likes of that Banty McEnaney and his family making €130 million from their direct provision centres. WTF!

Anyway government, hurry the hell up and sort out this mess. You are destroying my beautiful country.

From being out and about, the silent section who didn't say much but were waiting for an election to vote these gobshites out, are getting more and more pissed off and vocal about this absolute farce of a government and the **** show of inviting every T,D and H to come and live here, why you pay for it and struggle to live yourself. Lovely.

The way things are going the Irish tourism industry is bunched also, as only people who will be able to afford to vist and holiday here will be the very wealthy. I'm glad we were able to holiday in Ireland with our family for many years, before this sh*t show started, certainly couldn't afford to do it now with the price of everything. Of course, some of the usual suspects will be along shortly and they will say "pity about you, think of these poor unfortunates, fleeing war and persecution etc". It's a very sad state of affairs when you're priced out of your own country and all for what?

Let me try to respond to this question more politely this time around.

What happens when this 'limit' is reached? What's the point in talking about a 'limit' when you've got no measure to introduce when that 'limit' is met?

For the record I'm not in favor of unlimited immigration. I think there's too much migration in general in the world in recent years. That includes young people having to leave Ireland as well people from outside having to leave their own families and communities to come here.

I do blame the Government for much of the current situation. O'Gorman's famous tweets, failure to take action against people destroying passports enroute, failure to enforce deportations, not changing course when hotels were being used on a large scale for immigrants.

But the idea that the Government should have had enough houses waiting for tens of thousands of people who might or might not arrive is really, really moronic. The idea that Ireland can build its way out of the situation is also stupid. The industry is flat to the board already, and large scale immigration is still continuing.

People who make these arguments can't be taken seriously. Even if the country had enough houses, which it certainly won't have in the medium term, there'd still be far too much pressure on services.

This is the bigger picture that gets lost. The reality is that legal immigration has been far too high also.Havig so many people come in, particularly since 2003, has been a huge contributor to the housing crisis. It's an inconvenient truth.

40% of people aged 30-40 in their parents home is an incredible statistic. If it was that for 20-30 years olds it'd be woeful.

Simplistic this may be, but watching an episode of Nothing to Declare, about the Australian border force - why on earth can our own GNIB/INIS/whatever it is now not operate in a similar way ? Is it lack of manpower ? Lack of will ?

Laddo comes in with a dodgy story and is interviewed; story is clearly nonsense and off he goes back on the flight he came in on. Comes up with an asylum yarn ? Off to Villawood Detention Centre until it is sorted. No Direct Provision, no payments - just three meals and a bed.

Legal immigration is desperately needed - healthcare, service industries etc - and immigration on our terms is absolutely fine. However the categorising everyone as "seeking International Protection" is not helping - there are genuine asylum seekers fleeing persecution I'm sure but the vast majority are chancers looking for a payday, and lumping them all in the same boat helps no one.

There has to be a temporary halt on anyone not with a legal work visa while we get a handle on this and a grown up conversation involving all parties. And tough questions need to be asked of those seeking IP - how many countries have you been in the last year, how did you get to Ireland, what are you hoping to get here ?? Proper questioning - not the soft nonsense that Lucky bloke gets when he is feted on Virgin Media One!

We can but hope!