Global warming

That's the economics that works today. As food supplies become less secure in the (near?) future, it can change. One can thrive on just what's readily grown here.

We could diversify into tillage and grains, but the yields would be poor due to your aforementioned soil types being unsuitable. In the not too distant past each landholder would grow a mix of crops and have different animals. We can thank CAP and corporate interests for that change as it became no longer viable. Just 50 years ago on our land we grew oats, wheat, potatoes and sugar beet. Also had beef and dairy, a few retired work horses, sheep and pigs. Now none of that only grass and that's not sustainable without outside work whereas preciously 6 people lived off 20% of the land area we have now. Tillage/horticulture is ridiculous expensive to get into due to the capital costs. We're also flat out trying to shut down horticulture here meaning less native veg.

It would, and did grow it. But seed companies have the market there and none of the required seeds are licensed here. There's even a big push on to stop farmers holding grains back to use for next seasons seeds

Its very on topic really - what the sort of tillage agriculture is most dependent on is a stable climate so that predictable planning can be carried out. Climate change has already shown itself to be highly disruptive of Irish climate with a very high probability (based on modelling) of it getting considerably more unpredictable.

Historically the main grains we ever grew were oats and barley. Oats were highly successful and those areas local to me in the west which grew oats had significantly better survival rates in the famine times. Oats would be a staple if we attempted some form of self sufficiency so it would mean a radical change in our diet to something like the historical Scottish highlands diet.

Its not going to happen - and why would we want it to happen.

I don't know about that. Certainly some kids were told to head off, but some were kept at home to farm the land.

Paranoid? What's paranoid about it. If you grow grains from seed grain you've kept from the previous harvest, it's very difficult to sell the subsequent crops on as the seed isn't certified. We used to grow the flour we needed in the not too distant past. We can do it again. We import spuds but grow a huge amount of it. For example, nearly all the Dunnes Stores own brand are grown by a farm located in Meath

I don't think using a boat is the gotcha you think it is. She also wears clothes and breaths oxygen.

If you think those who "belief" Greta as a metric of anything - your not interested in the actual science.

I imagine Europe is probably the continent with the most temperature monitoring also

Quelle surprise

Lol so you're saying the rest of the world would have similar reports of warming if they actually monitored it?

Anyway it's bad news for crops in Europe, its already having big impacts in Spain with drought and crop failures.

The arctic has been heavily under reported and under represented in global warming trends. It is experiencing 5x the warming that the rest of the world is and that significant because it fairly much drives much of the North Atlantics weather.

So I believe. So much of the fruit and veg we eat comes from Spain too so hopefully they can find ways around the drought.

Everywhere is warming twice as fast as everywhere else. That headline gets more recycling than plastic bottles at a return bottle bank.

back to that article, how many, many more people died from the effects of cold across Europe last year? or even how many peoples lives are saved by having affordable access to heating across Europe on an annual basis?

The European report focuses this year on the impact of high temperatures on human health, noting that deaths related to heat have risen across the continent. It said more than 150 lives were lost directly last year in connection with storms, floods and wildfires.

How many more people do you want killed because they cannot afford the cost of energy and food needed to sustain their lives? There is a reason the Irish government, took action to offset the cost burden of electricity prices due to a surge caused in 2021 by an extended cold Spring in Europe that consumed more gas, combined with a wind drought that consumed more gas, combined with a surge in demand for gas in advance of Winter than pushed up prices to record highs leading to surge in electricity prices. Weather dependent electricity generation is unreliable, cannot guarantee delivery and it's not cheap either, that's why "demand management" happens in the background as today heavy industrial consumers are forced off the grid on a regular basis in this country to their own generation facilities.

Energy is not an input into the economy, IT IS THE ECONOMY.
Humanity organizes its economic activities to ensure a steady growth in the extraction and exploitation of primary energy because energy is life, standards of living are defined by how much energy is available to be exploited, and all humans everywhere are perpetually seeking a higher standard of living. source

European leaders have set the continent on a trajectory that can only result in economic and social disadvantage for most of the people they currently govern. What are these ejiits doing?

1. Restricting access to affordable and reliable energy,
   
2. Reducing food production by taking land out of production (re-wetting), covering land with solar panels, hedge funds buying up agricultural land for "carbon storage" and carbon credits. Pushing the cost of food production up by taxing energy and all this in the face of a growing population in main urban areas. This only means higher food prices. If you think we are going to switch over to a diet of vegetables, not going to happen there are https://www.independent.ie/farming/news/just-60-field-vegetable-growers-left-in-the-country-bord-bia-director/a1130369415.html Food prices are going much higher on this trajectory.
   
3. Restricting public access to approved forms of transport, forget about that Mediterranean holiday, the ejiits are going to collapse the Mediterranean tourist economy if they have their way.
   
4. Funding world war, apparently world peace is not in the UN sustainability goals.
   

The electorate has been gradually waking up to the damage these ejiits are causing and no amount of weather propaganda headlines can mask this. The 2030 targets re being dumped, it's already happening and it will accelerate, it must.