Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022 - Read OP

Leaked training being given to Scottish Police showing they're being given the training to target social media posts and to go after anyone, who produces material, including making fun of or misgendering trans people, making racial jokes or criticisms of certain religions, or criticizing migrants can, even likes or re-tweets, of material deemed "threatening and abusive," which can also be communicated through "public performance of a play" as n "giving, sending, showing, or playing the material to another person" such as "through online streaming, by email, playing a video."

This sounds about right. Is McEntee brave enough to implement this style here

At the same time they're rolling this out, they're refusing to investigate genuine crimes in Scotland. They've also explicitly said on the Police Scotland website that "white entitled males" are more likely to commit hate crimes. It's an anti-white law brought in by their anti-white first minister Humza Yousaf.. How could you forget his white tirade in the Scottish parliament. Imo white men are the "hate monsters" in the eyes of the state.

I want to preface this with the following should anyone wish to label me a far right etc etc

I have never in my life:

• been to a protest march
• heckled a politician in public
• heckled a politician online

I have been a supporter of one main party all of my life but having watched a video interview last night with a prominent Irish barrister regarding the hate laws the Irish Government are now trying to push through (without a referendum)....but they will prob delay it until after the next election to ensure they get elected.

I will never vote again in a National Election for that party or a member from any other party who votes for the hate crime laws.

Willy O'Dea has broke ranks and stated what needs to be done on twitter....I hope people now inform themselves....for if we lose this freedom of speech....

Irish 'democracy' will be dead......'with O'Leary in the grave.....' etc

“One of the protected characteristics in the bill is ‘gender’ — and is defined in the legislation as ‘the gender of a person or the gender which a person expresses as the person’s preferred gender or with which the person identifies and includes transgender and a gender other than those of male and female’.

So in a group of people you must memorise what genders each one is at a given time?

Wow back in our schooldays we would have had a field day with this....change genders every 5 minutes and tdisrupt every class going.....and teachers wouldn't be able to say boo to us for fear of arrest....

And so just one example....you cannot see where all of this is heading???

Source https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/hate-speech-bill-is-restrictive-and-undemocratic-warns-barrister-as-7000-people-sign-petition/a1608824054.html

A well reasoned response....and exactly how debate should be.

Anyone who disagrees with this law will be labelled as far right which is inaccurate and lazy minded thinking.

I suppose based on the referendums that were just rejected close to 70% of those who voted are now far right also.

'A prominent Irish barrister '..

And then you posted here .

Did you check if that barrister was biased towards one side of the debate ?

Did you check out any other prominent barristers on the other side of the debate for a bit of balance ?

If that's what you really do think then fine but own it.

No need to explain yourself to others.

This post is not that . It is a post publicising one side over the other . Just say that then .

She is obviously not... but you go with that as it's your right to call her that .

Unfortunately the people who support this bill, much like the people who supported the doomed referendums do so on ideological grounds and not on facts. Anything that forwards their agenda will be supported to the fullest as long as it progresses what "their truth" is, dammed the consequences. You also have many that freely admit to voting yes despite not fully understanding the question being asked and then accusing those who voted no to anything from not understanding it (halariously ironic), to being far right (70%+ of the population, really?).

As with the referendums the government have jumped the shark with this legislation and pushed its scope beyond what is reasonable. But that won't matter to those that support it.

What brainless woke rubbish?

I see this bandied about, but no one can explain it to me

The Hate speech bill is purely an updated version of current legislation. Legislation is updated regularly. I don't know how that could be seen as woke.

Likewise the recent referendums, people were calling for the removal of the women in the home article for decades, hardly woke!

In a few of those polls that were conducted on immigration where they were broken down by party support, you'd FG very positive on AS/immigration compared to FF or SF.

Most right or centre right voters have already abandoned FG. I'd say FF have a better chance of capturing that than FG recapturing it.

Anyone who wants to see how we would look under this law need only to look at the law in Scotland from 1 April.

Chilling how they have removed free speech. The usual suspects are salivating as debate on certain matters has now been criminalised.

Neale Richmond was on RTÉ Radio 1 this morning saying that the bill is “a very important and well-intentioned piece of legislation” and that the bill was “not just about legislation” but about “the practicalities of high visibility policing, of making sure we provide those supports for An Garda Síochána and making sure that absolutely a focus under the legislation." When asked to clarify if Fine Gael would consider conceding to requests from political opponents of the bill he said that the government would not be “deviating away from the program for government.”. They know we know what their “commitments” are and yet they still continue with it.