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Leo Varadkar resigns as Taoiseach

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    They have constituent offices where all praise and criticism should be directed. Would you like it if I came up to you while you were off the clock and started talking about work in either a negative or positive fashion, or would you tell me rightly to bugger off?



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,890 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    FF went from 20 seats in 2011 (yes, Micheál w1as leader in that election, but the next election was his first test) to 44 in 2016 and 38 in 2020. FF went from 218 local seats in 2009 to 267 local seats in 2014 and 279 local seats in 2019. They went from 3 MEPs in 2009 to 1 in 2014 and 2 in 2019.

    FG went from 50 seats in 2016 to 35 in 2020. They went from 235 local seats in 2014 to 255 local seats in 2019. They went from 4 MEPs in 2014 to 5 in 2019.

    So if you look at the figures, FG have lost support in Dáil elections since Leo took over, much more pronounced than FF's decline (or being steady maybe?).



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Crime is perceived as increasing across the country by the general public and the judiciary is percieved as soft, especially when dealing with repeat & youth offenders.

    Therefore, the justice minister is hardly going to be perceived positivley by the electorate.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭yagan


    Regardless of your academic credentials you still have to win over the general populace and anyone who works and or lives in Dublin city centre could tell you there was a serious safety issue with it when she was insisting it was safe.

    The garda escort only solidified the public perception of a person out of touch with reality.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,184 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Whether you are a politician or in business, you're only ever as good as your last voter or customer.

    Anyone who takes their voters or customers for granted is a fool. You deal with people when & where they are.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,877 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Yourself and Paddy Cosgrave will be struggling now that you don't have Leo to throw insults at.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    No hatred on my part whatsoever, but I dont see her running the country.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Of course its not Bonkers she is a minister, the bar these days is so low. (and yes I say that tongue in cheek)

    Look at the Ministers we currently have. NONE of them I would personally employ.



  • Registered Users Posts: 959 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Michael Martin while Taoiseach absconded the role and handed leadership of the country to Tony Hollohan for two years, Martin was only marginally less awful than Leo for the sole reason that Leo doesn't give a stuff about anything bar project Leo



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    It's better for you not everyone. A man/woman could work and buy a house on an average wage in the 80's and even the 90's i know because i did. You can't do that now on two above average wages.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,898 ✭✭✭amacca


    yep bit of an epic own goal in fairness.........



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,392 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Are you aware as controversial as CH could be, the levels of improvement and prosperity he brought to the country…? The economy under his watch was a total success,

    didn’t think Cowan was much use but if you put him next to Enda, Leo he did this country way less damage.

    Haughey backed the IFSC, free travel scheme for the elderly, secured unprecedented EU funding for capital projects and a list of stuff that Varadkar couldn’t even contemplate matching that would improve the country and life for citizens here. The benefits are still being felt today.

    Im no FF fan I haven’t any allegiance to a political party at all but my god if you suggest that Varadkar and Haughey should even be mentioned in the same breath….. Haughey made a positive impact overall and improved life for people here. You might not like the man and he certainly wasn’t whiter than white but the record showed he was a lot more positive than bad, Leo, just wasn’t up to it, a populist sound byte merchant and not a whole lot more…. The record has already been written, cannot be unwritten he was a poor Taoiseach and proven to be disingenuous in the manner he led. Didn’t listen to the electorate, Irish citizens who he treated in the most outrageously, off handed and ignorant manner….



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    I've never seen this county in the state it's in....crisis everywhere, health, education, housing, not to mention the complete detachment from the majority of Irish people with the results of the recent referendum, the hate speech legislation must be ditched surely at this point if the party wants to survive the next election.

    I can't recall a party in Government losing so many sitting TD's before an election is even called.

    And I've never seen an Irish leader with such obvious disdain for Irish people. History will not be kind to this guy I'm afraid.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I notice you didn't answer my question though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    She’s a woman and successful. That doesn’t set well with some men who aren’t.



  • Registered Users Posts: 195 ✭✭Repo101


    You're deliberately conflating the issues of economic migrants who contribute little to the economy and legal migration who contribute a lot. You're also, deliberately, oversimplifying the issues with services in Ireland. Also, many migrants who apply for asylum here are arriving in Ireland after they have already gone through other safe countries. Ireland is not obligated to take in these people.

    Have you given up a room to take in an asylum seeker or is it just the taxpayer you expect to take in every Tom, Dick and Harry? The do-gooders are rarely capable of any personal sacrifices.



  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Hungry Burger


    Not a hope McEntee will get it unless FG are deliberately trying to implode themselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,478 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Why do you keep repeating how many people live in Dublin? Can you not see the fallacy there?

    You must be the type that sees 20 immigrants squeezed into a 2 bed flat then proudly proclaims that there is still room in the toilet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    😂

    ”Zealots”

    It’s not hard to find the abuse Leo got which had nothing to do with politics….



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  • Registered Users Posts: 959 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    FF came from an unnaturally low base in 2011, they were always going to bounce back, Martin has achieved nothing in terms of growing the party



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    You know what's really struck me today, forget the housing crisis, the healthcare crisis, the crime epidemic, the mental health crisis, the rental crisis etc... it's FG politicians and even some opposition politicians coming out and say Varadkar did a great job handling the covid situation. I mean i don't know if they are trolling or whatever but really?



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Yes but not everybody could get work and unemployment and emigration was much higher.

    I'm not saying housing is not a problem but please don't make out that the country is not in better shape than it was in the 80s and 90s. Almost everything is better.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,903 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    Like many FG governments before them they focused too much on “compliance”- you’re always guaranteed a raft of controlling legislation with a FG government- some of it was needed, some of it way OTT- but regardless it can’t take center stage over issues like housing and the economy - all they seemed to yap on about were rights and ever resttrictive laws -well great- now loads of people have “rights” but no ffin house to exercise them in 😀



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    What do people think is the reason(s) for Varadkar's resignation?

    Strange timing, considering he isnt moving to another job...The referendum vote must have played a part, but how significant, given most people werent interested in the content of it anyway and didnt vote.

    With SF sliding in the polls, do FG hope to ride the wave & expect a bounce in support from a leadership change?



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