Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

I'd say the width of the road is the true problem. It is far too narrow to allow 2 vehicles to pass each other by.

One way to the seafront from the Kincora Road crossroads would be much safer, and then motorists can use Castle Avenue, Oulton Road and Belgrove Road to turn onto Kincora Road if needs be, or go through Conquer Hill.

Spot on Monk. There is a huge car park available across the road on the seafront. Can't be using that though.

Such a shame that the cycle route from Artane to Clontarf will be properly done for 90%, and then will tail off at the aforementioned shambles that is Vernon Avenue (Nolans end).

I'm living just behind Brookwood Ave. Councillor Stocker was at my door recently asking for votes. I brought this cycle lane up, no response.

I emailed Councillor Cooney about it, assuming as Green Party rep she will have the most interest. My query got farmed onto some department at DCC, awaiting response.

We move at glacial pace in this country when it comes to public representation.

And that Brookwood Avenue/Howth Road junction is a sh1t5how anyway, can't make it much worse.

Regardless of how dangerous Richmond Road is, the opposition to making it one-way would likely be huge. Proposing it would almost certainly result in nothing changing and any subsequent lesser proposals being met with suspicion of being a precursor to eventual one-way so again, nothing changes. Like I said, there are other options which, while not perfect, could still majorly improve the situation.

Some residents might have been pushing for it but I'm sure there are a lot more residences, businesses and others which would be bitterly opposed to such a change.

Who cares about such opposition? - the decision makers!

BusConnects and Metrolink support my point, they bent over backwards to accommodate complainants. BusConnects in particular has been compromised to hell meaning the final designs nothing like the original ambition. Also see proposals for new bridges to replace LCs on rail lines which went nowhere. These are major projects costing billions and benefiting the entire Dublin region. Recent posts in this thread highlight where local objections have resulted in smaller less ambitious projects being gutted.

Experience tells us that if DCC proposed making all Richmond Road a one-way street, it would most likely be exactly as it currently is in 10 years time. As I said, you could probably get 90% of the benefits without going full one-way.

"It's a male minority pursuit"

"Why don't we make it safer, to encourage others to take part so?"

"No, lets keep it restricted to a male minority pursuit, that's how I like it"

I live near Brookwood Rise, where the traffic is often back up to (and not just on school mornings by the way) while the right hand turn exists. So that blame can only be pinned on motorists, absolutely clogging the roads.

The volume of St Pauls school students cycling on the paths each day is outrageous, none of them will cycle on the road. Having safe cycle infrastructure in place for them, and students of the other local schools is most definitely worth it, even if motorists have to wait another 2 minutes to get through that Brookwood Avenue junction.

There is a newly installed traffic signal at the other end of Brookwood Avenue, adjoining Gracefield Road. Traffic is often back up there too, and guess who are the culprits....correct, motorists.

And do you know why you don't see cyclists sitting in those 'empty cycle lanes' by the way, because they are long gone and not stuck sitting in traffic.

And as to your point on orange and black traffic wands, these are only required because the standard of driving in the country is so poor that we have to have these eyesores in place to keep motorists out of areas where they shouldn't be.

Every single one of your gripes can be directly attributed to motorists, and here you are complaining about cyclists. Hilarious.

What is your stance on roads that are festooned with ugly metal vehicles?

I see Cian Giny's article about a particular section of the C2C cycleway at Fairview/Marino, the designers have installed a signal controlled crossing for pedestrians at the bus stop, so as to stop cyclists.. Whereas the actual left turn has no signals so large trucks, buses and cars can take a flyer around that corner.. Show's the over exaggerated focus on cyclists being "dangerous"...

Location;

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pVVaE82X5okNQxp26

Had a walk around the Fairview parts today, I'm glad they're taking the effort to do some nice finishes. So much of town now is the plain tile look that's ageing pretty badly (see the new Temple Bar Square), whereas plenty of areas on the outbound side of fairview, they're doing nice decorative stone finish. Largest is outside the bikeshop but plenty more between there and Clontarf

Glad they're not taking the quick/cheap option