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  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭bleaks


    So you sold about two weeks ago when it was in the mid 60s... it has since went to the mid 70s and is back in the mid 60s after a slight, but much anticipated correction. It would probably cost you more now to buy the same amount with fees, never mind CGT. Fair enough you're bearish, but you're very much in the minority especially around the halving. Time will tell whether it was a good move.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,035 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Indeed but it's important for people to safely hit their targets for whatever personal reasons. Time is a big factor. Constantly attempting to maximise gain can be a rabbit hole and white knuckle ride.

    I know people who very happily sold their BTC for e.g. 15k in 2017 and have no regrets. BTC may very well be 200k in the future, but some people need e.g. a car or a deposit or a house now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,967 ✭✭✭circadian


    It's about taking profit and being content with it regardless of whether the market moons or not after it. Diamondhanding is not a strategy if you're looking for reasonably short term returns.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    An asset going up 100% in a month, especially when it's as big as Bitcoin is not normal or healthy. I some risk off the table. Bitcoin will probably go higher and higher but even if it doubles again I'll make more in alts than bitcoin at this point. CGT isn't a reason not to sell.

    I got caught up last cycle in this "up only theory" and diamond hands bullshit. I won't be caught like that again. I also don't need to try and sell at the very top. Selling at 70K and it goes to 80K? Who cares. An extra 10% or so means little.

    I'm also going to buy a house so I want cash for that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,035 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




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  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭bleaks


    Brilliant that you've been able to cash out some towards a house, well done. We all know that crypto is not your traditional asset and is high risk with huge swings. I was repsonding to your recent bearish posts of "it's going to 40k", which I would be incredibly surprised by right before a halving, etf spots, and interest rates dropping = cheaper money, offering more leverage for people to invest with.



  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Norrie Rugger Head


    I saw a post a while back about someone lamenting that they could have paid off their mortgage had they cashed out. Everyone should have a target, they may be back at that point again but there was no guarantee

    ⛥ ̸̱̼̞͛̀̓̈́͘#C̶̼̭͕̎̿͝R̶̦̮̜̃̓͌O̶̬͙̓͝W̸̜̥͈̐̾͐Ṋ̵̲͔̫̽̎̚͠ͅT̸͓͒͐H̵͔͠È̶̖̳̘͍͓̂W̴̢̋̈͒͛̋I̶͕͑͠T̵̻͈̜͂̇Č̵̤̟̑̾̂̽H̸̰̺̏̓ ̴̜̗̝̱̹͛́̊̒͝⛥



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Also probably in the minority in that he cashed out instead of being the bag holder.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,826 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    You played it smart. Don't mind the cultish "hodl" forever nonsense. You would have been still right to do what you did was it up at 75k today. The only money that counts is the money in your pocket. Ironically, as many are wont to dismiss it - the fiat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    My sales ranged between €58K -€66K. Looks like the recent top was €67K so I'm happy with that.

    It was my first time moving a significant amount (to me anyway) from a wallet to an exchange and cashing out. It was such a straight forward process. No issues from the exchanges or banks.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 45,520 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    100% the right move.

    The right move for you at the time is always the correct call.

    Well done.



  • Registered Users Posts: 45 ZMOONY


    it's gonna moon in a few months, dunno what it'll do after that but I'm not expecting a big correction fall for the main ones. Just the crap alts.

    Eth etf incoming.

    BTC, Eth, link. Forgt the rest.



  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭byrne249


    Congrats! I'm definitely guilty of misinterpreting your intentions in earlier posts. To me at least it came across as if you were trying timing it to buy lower. Ass-uming and all that. Well done!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    Trezor having their twitter account compromised isn’t a great look for a hardware device.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,081 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Wait till they take control of your Tesla and drive it somewhere dodgy - while the wife and kids are still in it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Ondo seems to be the one doing well any time there are rumblings in the rwa category, I’m in around 20 something cents but expecting this to do well long term.

    Embrace the dip lads



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    When the 100% rise is easily explained through etf money and part of a bull cycle hype then this to me is pretty normal and healthy.

    If you were caught holding before then fair enough, it’s understandable then to be somewhat edgy, but it’s not clear what your strategy was/is. If it’s invest and take profit when you need the money then fair enough, maybe you bought at the top last cycle and just want out now which would be understandable, but what I don’t understand is that your timing of the pullback was pretty impressive which indicates you have a good understanding of the market, yet on the other hand you seem to suggest that 70 or 80k is top for Bitcoin this cycle and a broad consensus would be that’s nowhere near the predicted top. To me it seems that your instincts are good but you might not trust them, anyways good luck with your house.



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    RWA looking like the flavor of the month, the highest ranked coin on CoinGecko is Ondo at approx 100, so these are fairly low marketcap with a high gain potential, the air did seem to go out of them a bit after the previous pump so the sentiment can fade somewhat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    So looks like the correction of the last few days was ahead of the Fed update yesterday?

    This was one of my fears with the ETF approval, that crypto prices would couple with the general stock market. The banks/investment funds will be the new whales.



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Its election year, the Biden admin will do whatever it takes now for assets to increase in value, keeping the older voter happy, and now writing off student debt, keeping the younger people happy.

    2024 will see supercycles, 2025 will crash



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  • Registered Users Posts: 45 ZMOONY




  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    The US government will do whatever it takes this election year to patch up their finances which arent in great shape, its a temporary bandaid, prices of stocks and crypto will increase throughout this year and at some point it reach its peak, then its a question of whether the bandaid comes off slowly or ripped off - most likely ripped of and we see a crash.

    From a crypto perspective we should see a good run up this year, then question is then when to exit



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,035 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    No one knows or has a clue, it's just assumed because so far every 3 or 4 years since 2013 there's a mental boom, then a crash afterwards. This one is assumed to be one of the bull runs and it's then assumed there will be a crash afterwards.

    Crypto can literally go up because the herd thinks it's "time" to go up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    I don’t think the price goes up because people thinks it’s time to go up, now if it’s that lad with the neurolink implant then maybe



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,035 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    If a company doubles in size/revenue, then a share in that company will generally double in value. Logic.

    In crypto that doesn't really exist, so it usually goes up or down for "perceived" reasons or perceived patterns, plus the herd trying to beat those perceived patterns. There was a bull in 2013, one in 2017, one in 2021 (which many of us here predicted), therefore everyone has been "expecting" a bull in 2025. Unsurprising something is forming now in order to get ahead of that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Thats not really accurate now is it, the more developers on Cardano, Ethereum or Solana then the higher the value of the native coin, the more transactions or transaction fees then the higher the value of the coin, the more profit Binance makes then the higher the value of BNB.

    Although "Perceived" reasons do exits in crypto, and every other market, they are not the sole reason of the value of a coin rising. Aside from that this is also a financial market and is impacted by financial policies, just like any other.

    To say the herd decides when prices go up is just plain wrong, unless you are specifically talking about something like Solana memecoins.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,035 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Crypto isn't really like any other market (maybe something like rare baseball cards or something)

    It's essentially a casino where everyone is competing for punters money by making the coolest shiniest technological casino chips. Chips that can talk to each other, move fast, convert into other chips, have DeFi, pay interest in the form of additional chips, bells and whistles, etc, etc but ultimately aren't used for much except as chips in the casino. That's it.

    Ford makes cars, it's share value is determined by a number of factors mainly linked to the performance of the company.

    "Dogwifhat" crypto doesn't make anything or do anything, it's a Dog with a hat, it's value can't be determined because there's little or nothing logical to analyse, it's value is just arrived on by a herd gambling on it's value. We laugh at it, but Bitcoin also does nothing and produces nothing, it's simply an artificially scarce "thing", with it's value determined by a herd of people who, surprise, surprise, gamble on it's value for real money. It just happened to be the first. Litecoin, Bitcoin cash, Dogecoin, ultimately they are all the same thing. People point to the fact that their network is secure, but that's the whole point of them, it's supposed to be. It's the equivalent of a car company harping on that their cars have wheels.

    Apart from a sort of anti-system hedge against the system (like gold), that's it.

    Pick a project that apparently does something, e.g. Solana, what does it do? Mainly acts as a platform for crypto to move and make more crypto to make money. I've been researching Dapp platforms for years now, I swear there are more platforms than actual Dapps. And don't get me started on the NFT or crypto "gaming" platforms.

    The business model:

    1. Crypto idea
    2. Replicate/develop code and whitepaper
    3. Do up a very fancy website, put all your friends in suits as the "developers", make a roadmap
    4. Mint a private token out of thin air
    5. List the token on the secondary market for real money
    6. Sell the magic token and use the cash to pay the staff to keep producing the hype and paying for partnerships to keep selling the token..
    7. Die the second your blockchain "fuel" isn't worth anything to the mob
    8. Repeat.

    Or just copy-paste Bitcoin/Doge.

    That's it. All of them part of the same casino. And I'm fine with that, but some insist on falling for the marketing spiel and crypto-bro stuff, even after years.

    I'm still buying crypto, but my sole reason is to make money off other people, like everyone else in this scheme.

    Anyway, back to the fun, we're only excited because money number goes up. That's all it is ;)



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    I give up, mods if I ever try explain crypto to Dohn again then ban me.

    its just never gonna sink in



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Visa and PayPal are partnering with blockchains to handle international transactions, the security and low fees make it attractive to them.

    There are two extremes, one is it will do nothing and the other is it will do everything. It will probably be somewhere in the middle.



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